9/11 terrorist attack?

Lucid Adventures
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So, I hope I don’t get in trouble for posting this… :neutral:

Anyway, I have seen interesting videos on the internet, that suspect that those twin-towers might have been blown up by the FBI (or CIA, or the U.S. government)
instead by air-o-plane flying, faith-crazy … erm… moslim terrorists ( :devil: ).

So I started wondering how I could find out wether it is true or not and lately I had the idea that Perhaps If I could go to that day in an LD I could see what really happend.

Pretty good plan I think, but the not so good part is that I’m still having trouble having LD’s (not had even one yet), so I decided to share my idea and ask those who have more frequent LD’s to help me out by executing my plan and posting the results here.

To whomever will accept this ‘‘mission’’ I would ask to follow my prefered two-day plan of actions:
The ‘‘incident’’, I beleve happened on 11.09.2001. at 8.46am-10.28am.

Day-1: First you need to get there, by summoning a time-machine or any other way you like. You’ll need to go about an hour before the event so you’d have time to search the buildings for explosives, shady looking characters and anything else suspishious.

Day-2: Go back an hour before the event stop time and find the planes that will crash into the towers, once inside investigate and then start the time again and let things go the way the will, still, keep an eye on the cockpit or go in there to see what is going on there before the collision (It may be helpful to make you’re-self invisible in the plane and incorporeal to avoid unnecessary problems with the passengers, pilots and the potential terrorists, Try not to influence anything that could compromise the ending of the event, wouldn’t want faulty results).

That is what I’d like you to do but most other ways are welcome as long as the pattern of minor-events is left undisturbed, I am just interested in what is wrong with the buildings and planes involved with the event. If you can you may accomplish both tasks at one time, again, unless it can produce faulty information.

Thanks in advance to all who decide to help out, to those one more request, please post you’re opinion on the ‘‘attack’’ BEFORE going on the mission.
I will try it myself once I become lucid in a dream but we need atleast three storys(plus mine) before we can label this whole experiment useless or a good investigation method, so ALL help is welcome.

Sorry if this has been done before or if I have put this …topic in the wrong …erm… …forum.

And yes I am pretty paranoid in nature :anx: (In case you started to wonder).

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It won’t work. Lucid dreaming is not clairvoyance. Everything you see lies entirely within your own mind, created from what you already know or believe. Dreams can’t provide reliable information as to what really happened that day.

Besides, if there was a conspiracy, they couldn’t have kept something this big hidden for so long. Our government just isn’t that smart. :tongue:

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/me reminds everybody that this is a forum for discussion of lucid dreams, not political theories :cool:

My opinion is that no matter how much we try to “not influence” a dream, it will still not be completely objective. The subconscious is infamous for showing us what we expect to see in a dream, also when it is lucid.

It could be a nice quest suggestion btw, to go back to a historical event and witness it like this.

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Yes, SIIW, but the suggestion itself - to investigate historical event through lucid dreams is quite interesting. Sure, you might want to use it for conspiracy theories, but you might as well use it to examine any shady part of human history - For instance, where is the Ark of the Covenant, where is Elvis Presley ETC…

Aks - Perhaps you could turn this into a generic “Investigate an historical evet” topic.

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Don’t forget about building 7! In fact, one should stay inside all 3 buildings during the entire event, to listen for explosions and odd stuff, as the conspiracy theories involve controlled detonations.
Also, it could be interesting to observe the actions of such people as Bush, to see if he really had advance knowledge of the attacks.
Oh, and the Pentagon, Gotta watch the attack there since the governemnt didn’t provide a good video.
It will probably confirm most things you already believe about the events. Or maybe not.

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this is disinformation :smile:

9/11 doesn’t really matter though, what matters is how the public looks at the world.

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When I posted this topic(Right?) I did intend to see what people say they found out about 9/11 and once collected enough information, could tell wether or not you could use LD’s to relive the real event and collecting evidence(of sorts) of what really happened, either they did blow up the building by bomb or did the steel melt by the fire of the jet-fuel which caused the floors to start falling on each-other.
From what I’ve seen, it is quite possible that the U.S. government blew up the buildings but I cant know for sure without solid evidence. If by chance say 3/4 of the testers get the same results maybe this method could be used for other stuff like… yes… well finding Elvis, after tested this way three other events I think it could be possible to say if that ‘‘method’’ works or not. (Hope this thing I just wrote is not too hard to understand, seems pretty awful to me)

Yes, this was what I planned to do in the first place but I may need help with that, I’m new to these forum things.
But first I need people to test 9/11 so this will have to wait for a while.

And the video I saw was called Zeitgeist (no it’s not in German, though I beleve there IS a German version), it’s about ‘‘the men behind the courtain’’, wery interesting.
Zeitgeist
Did I do it? Anyway, it lasts for a bit over two hours.
It starts by a religion thing and don’t skip anything if you decide to watch it.

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Well, Lucid Dreaming could be time travel, but the information would be after your mind and history and the future really are endless possibilites. So it wouldn’t work.

Claivoayance is needed, but the question need to come from this world -the external world - so the answer comes close to a possible future that most likley will happen…

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Plus , even if it would work , there is always the problem that it is a dream … a lucid dream at that , meaning you are able to influence the pictures you see and be it on a unconcious level , making the information gained extremely …uncertain .

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I really don’t think it would hurt ANYONE to try, and I am not making people do this, I just asked people to try this out for me because I, myself haven’t had any LD’s yet, and to see what other people found out.

So please, don’t say that what you’ll be seeing is uncertain or what you all-ready believe. Just say (IF you are willing to waste some lucid time on it) ‘‘Yes, I will try it, I currently believe ______ happened’’ and later post you’re results.

I am fully aware that what you see in a dream is most likely not real or anything, but if people will help me with this ‘‘quest’’, I think this could prove it once and for all that they are or are not real(at least for some people :smile: ).

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Short : No , sorry , but i fear it won’t prove anything … of nobody … :sadyes: