A Question on extending LDs and Touch/Speech

Lucid Adventures
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I’ve been attempting LDs for about two weeks or more, and it seems I’ve been one of the lucky one’s who got them pretty fast. I had one FLD and two LDs this last week. :smile:

But, now that I’ve experienced them, I’ve got some problems it seems when it comes to getting them to go for more than a few minutes at a time. Both times I got LDs, I was taking a nap in the off moments when this dorm is quiet. I take a nap, trying to think about dreams and attempt WILDs, then I’m having a repeating FA, and eventually realize I’m asleep. Then it goes black.

I’ve tried to fight it off, and have had the FAs repeat again, but I only get a minute or so to look around after that. I looked at the tips for remaining lucid, but I’ve got a problem.

The dreams fade seemingly because I ‘close my eyes’ in the dream, and can’t open them (meaning no chance to focus on anything), and I don’t ever feel myself touching things in my dreams. I haven’t tried spinning around yet, but I’m not sure it would work - the second I stop seeing things, its like my body doesn’t exist anymore. It also makes it impossible to talk, even though I rarely talk during a dream anyways, and even then it’s usually only a whisper - which seems to trigger me waking up.

Are there any other techniques I could use to try and extend a LD?

Can anyone think of something I could try in the long run to help me talk louder and feel things in my dreams?

Moved from Quest For Lucidity to Lucid Adventures. :dragon:

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If you don’t feel things, it gets tricky, because the sense of touch is so useful for prolonging dreams.
When it goes black, and you cannot do anything, then wait! Dreams don’t like to be still, it is likely the visuals will return, unless you wake up.

To be able to feel in dreams, the only thing I can think of is to pay more attention to how things feel in waking life. And then do it again in dreams.

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I’d suggest next time you’re lucid you touch something. Press it, squeeze it, rub it. And try to feel, try to imagine how it’s supposed to feel. Eventually your sense of touch will come. Paying close attention to it is the first step I believe. It took me a while to feel stuff too, I had to remember to try and touch something in the dream.

As krakatoa said, the sense of touch is very useful for prolonging dreams. There’s the hand rubbing technique, for example. I like to “kiss” and lick stuff. :shy: Sounds ridiculous I know, but it works great for me…

And if you wake up don’t move! You might be doing this already… If you stay completely still usually you can enter the dream again.

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I’m just making this up but I don’t know, maybe it works. Try feeling more in real life. I have done this before and I dont know why, but I just was amazed how we can feel things. Maybe if you do this in real life, then you can feel more in a dream.

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Oh and when your in the “darkness”, you can try just sitting there for a while chances are another dream will form…

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Here are a few of the things I have done in the past that have helped me:

  1. holding onto something (ie a pole tree person etc) At a later stage i learnt how to 'hang onto the dream ’ as it where with my mind. handy trick.

spinning
rubbing hands
envolve your self as much in the dream as you can, talk walk fly more stimuli

Which brings me to a quick point, i disagree with the above, if you find your self ina void, try to visalise a dream enviroment, my experiences in the past have taught me that sitting there and waiting leads to extenal stimuli pulling me back to my body but to focus in my mind brings me back toa dream, imo this works better

involve your self completly with the dream, the more you are part of the dream, the more stable it will be and the less likely that external stimuli will wake you.

PRACTICE - it took me months after i learnt how to ld to have a good long one, but once they come, they are easy to hold

Visulise - While you are awake see your self ina lucid dream, and see it lasting a long long time- this is agood mind trick for a lot of things

Triggers - while awake press your thumb to your index finger and say to your self ~when i do this, the dream will be stable and i will be lucid~ kee doing this and then when you have a lucid dream use the same motion and it will kick start your brain into doing something, remember how you started to drive a car? same thing. This can be sed for lucid dreaming too, ill be writing an experiemnt in the next week or so on it feel free to join.

Relax and have fun. When you relax, your dream is more stable

Just a few more things

Touch (very good advice above, and the more you touch IRL the better your sense of feeling in the dream) Ask DC for advice how to stay in the dream .

Pratice dream reentery this will get you used to a lucid dream and keep you stable
Deep breaths, for some reason help
(mediate for some people works too)
have fun! key one here have fun works atreat.

Good luck

Rich