It’s a given that there are no limits on LDs and that all you need to do is “believe” that you can do something. But I believe we should not think in this way, I believe thinking this actually makes it harder and less fun to dream because you are constantly thinking “the reason I cannot do this is because I do not believe I can” when in fact, belief is very easy. Actually, I believe you should be thinking, “the reason I cannot do this is because I need more practice.” This will make the experience more fun knowing there is a process to build up to instead becomming annoyed and confused that you cannot do what you want to do.
The point of this thread is to change the way we think so that doing big things in LDs becomes something attainable, not something that happenes by luck of faith or belief. I believe that some of us should drop the conception that belief is the only limit. We should pick up the knowledge that doing the greatest things in LDs is a process to build up to and cannot be attained by simply trying your hardest to believe in something, but by practicing, going farther and farther, and gaining experience.
example: play a Need for Speed game, turn to gear 6 before you hit the pedal. See how it takes forever to gain speed? I think if you believe that only belief is the limiting factor, you cause your mind to turn to gear 6. But if you believe maybe that you cannot do something JUST YET you allow your mind to start on gear 1, and this will allow you to speed up quickly, turn to gear 2 when you think you can take the next big step, and then you will reach high speeds much faster than if you tried starting on gear 6.
Say you want to have a huge battle in your lucid dream. Why not start with a simple 1v1 battle then move up from there? Instead of trying to immediatly meet hundreds of opponents.
Edit: Oh yes, and I’m not trying to make everyone think like I am, I just want to provide another way of looking at Lucid Dreaming to help out some of us who are just beginning.
I’m sorry if I sound a bid redundant after those posts, but yes, that does make sense. Sure, it is important to believe that you will achieve what you want, but practice is still invaluable when it comes to abilities in lucid dreams.
When something is not going my way in a lucid dream, I try to picture the end result of what I want. For example, if I want something to appear, I may cover my eyes and picture that object occupying the space where I want it to appear and it usually works.
I absolutely agree with your statement. I’ve always been a firm believer that there is no such thing as talent. The “talented” people are just those who practice and work hard at something in order to become skilled at it. Likewise, you can’t expect to become good at something unless you’re willing to put in the time and the effort in order to reach your goal.
A person who has just had their first few lucid dreams will often have difficulty controlling things and sometimes tries to do too much. Just like in WL controlling lucid dreaming is a learning process. That is why some people have to use waking life logic to use dream powers. For example some people just can’t accept that they can fly in their dreams so they “find” a jet pack or rocket boots which allow them to fly. Over time they will come to the realization that they do not need those things to fly.
However, I still think people need to understand that they need to learn how to let go of WL rules in their lucid dreams. They need that goal in the back of there minds to truly become free in their lucid dreams.
So, I would say the answer is a little bit of both. You don’t want people to get frustrated because they cannot control their dreams the way they should be able to. Therefore I suggest we explain that it is a process and that as they have more lucid dreams they will learn more control, but people do need to understand what the key is to unlocking their dream powers.
On a further note, it really helps to develop a place you can train yourself in the dream, this helps your logic. Go there and practice your “powers” and even create ultra-realistic training dummies.