I would suggest you buy and read the book “The Art and Practice of Astral Projection” by Ophiel, it should be in your local occult or alternative bookstore and if not its easy to get on Amazon.com.
just stumbled upon a very nice site, and a very interesting read aswell!
That was VERY helpful! thank you so much for this great site
no problem, ive read lots of things from robert bruce… he sure knows his stuff
I’ve got one of his books but i havn’t actually had time to read it yet. And its like 600 pages…
personally i think any form of telekenisis, astral projection, spirit expulsion, or anything of that sort is bs
please tell me the science, im just OH SO FASCINATED in the ways of hypnagogic adventures of no reality
Now hang on a second, I’m very skeptical when it comes to this stuff too, but how do you think we are going to learn whether things like this are true or not? Which is going to produce results, ridiculing the things we don’t believe in or co-operating with others to learn about those things together?
hey, no ones forcing you to belive anything, if you dont want to you dont have to
Some of Bruce’s techniques are quite nice, even if you don’t agree with his theories (these ones in particular). You could just approach AP as a form of WILD, if that’s easier to swallow. And remember, some people still think lucid dreaming is BS…
I have a bunch of questions for whomever has had experience with astral projection: Do you have to accept a different religion to make use of your chakras? And, which religion is associated with the chakra system? Do you have to make use of chakras to astrally project? How reliable is the visual information you get when projecting (Can you use it in the physical plane)?
Anyway, thanks for the link. It’s an interesting read.
No. Chakras have appeared in most modern religions at some point, the name changes but their position and use does not. All the big religions have Chakra like “things” and texts on how to use them within the context of that religion. You may have to do a bit of research to find them but its there.
“Chakras” as the word is, is associated mostly with Hinduism, Buddism and to some extent Paganism (both Neo and Classical) though the system as I said before exists in most religions in some form.
No sure, the trance state you enter is “all in your mind” and the visual information can be completely made up. However it could be true. Its as reliable as visuals in a dream.
No, you do not need to accept a different religion to make use of your chakras nor is any specific religion associated with chakras.
Personally, Chakra’s DO help when it comes to AP but you dont have to use them.Robert Bruce suggests that you should use them , but i project fine without the use of them. The visual info with projecting depends on your level of conciousness.If its low, you would see mostly blurry things but if it was high and you would see things VERY clearly
well hope that helped, g’luck!
That answered my questions very nicely, thanks!
ive also heard in the astral planes that you can meet your spirit guides , i really hope i can meet my guide.
You dont have to be any specific religion to access your chakras. If you close your eyes and do energy excercises you can feel them, usually like someone is pressing on the spot they are located or a throbbing.
Acually you can meet them in waking life. I have 7 of them and i can identify each one of them by getting to know them well enough. They can tell you anything u want to know…they’re facinating to talk to.
Do you actually have to believe this to be able to AP?
(from the linked site)
I mean… Come on…
When it comes to APing, you really don’t have to believe anything but that APing, its self, is possible.
If you don’t wish to believe in the Astral Planes that is your choice, but then if they don’t exist how can you project into the Astral?
Believe what you will, so long as you have faith that APing is possible, you should still be able to do it. Although to me it sounds more like he is talking about LDing and the ability to create your environment than to actually AP.
There’s so many different views on what Aping is that no one can truly say they know the truth. It’s all just opinion. Some people think APing is related to dreaming, some don’t.
/me points to the “meet your spirit guide while awake” link in his sig.
i dont think you have had an AP or even tried.Although i could be wrong.
but seriously if you dont belive in this stuff, just give it a shot for yourself!
and thanks for the link Mohegan
Fair 'nuff, I think I can get myself to believe that it’s a very powerful version of dreaming/meditation, I’ve never doubted that people actually experience these things, I just have absolutely no belief in astral planes, if I get any results I suppose I might alter my belief in other dimensions (it’s a package deal when you believe in String and M-theorie) to sort of fit the mind being able to sense these when in these states, I still have to think of an underlying theorie that would physically work and not sound completely insane though.