This topic is exactly what I needed! I’ve recently become very interested in AP.
So far, I haven’t had any success, but then again, I haven’t even been working at it for a week. Hopefully it won’t be too long, but I can’t be sure of anything. I suppose my best bet is to take a look at all of those links.
I have had a few APs however, the exeriences are very different for the OBEs you have through LDing. I also find I have more control over AP than OBE and for me OBE is either usually accidental, or completely dependant on being Lucid.
There’s certainly an advantage if you can do AP since you start in a conscious and awake state.
I personally have my hands very full learning lucid dreaming, and being that I’m about to go to college in less than a month i’ll probably have even less time to devote to learning new things (practical RL knowledge comes first I’m afraid, at least until I get my real job).
However I am curious about this topic as well. What in seven heavens is astral projection?? I keep hearing it over and over again, but all i know about it is that it has something to do with out of body experiences. Can it be done with LDing, or is those two things too seperate to be compatible? And I repeat the question, what precisely is it?
Now hang on a second, I’m very skeptical when it comes to this stuff too, but how do you think we are going to learn whether things like this are true or not? Which is going to produce results, ridiculing the things we don’t believe in or co-operating with others to learn about those things together?
Some of Bruce’s techniques are quite nice, even if you don’t agree with his theories (these ones in particular). You could just approach AP as a form of WILD, if that’s easier to swallow. And remember, some people still think lucid dreaming is BS…
I have a bunch of questions for whomever has had experience with astral projection: Do you have to accept a different religion to make use of your chakras? And, which religion is associated with the chakra system? Do you have to make use of chakras to astrally project? How reliable is the visual information you get when projecting (Can you use it in the physical plane)?
Anyway, thanks for the link. It’s an interesting read.
No. Chakras have appeared in most modern religions at some point, the name changes but their position and use does not. All the big religions have Chakra like “things” and texts on how to use them within the context of that religion. You may have to do a bit of research to find them but its there.
“Chakras” as the word is, is associated mostly with Hinduism, Buddism and to some extent Paganism (both Neo and Classical) though the system as I said before exists in most religions in some form.
No sure, the trance state you enter is “all in your mind” and the visual information can be completely made up. However it could be true. Its as reliable as visuals in a dream.
No, you do not need to accept a different religion to make use of your chakras nor is any specific religion associated with chakras.
Personally, Chakra’s DO help when it comes to AP but you dont have to use them.Robert Bruce suggests that you should use them , but i project fine without the use of them. The visual info with projecting depends on your level of conciousness.If its low, you would see mostly blurry things but if it was high and you would see things VERY clearly
You dont have to be any specific religion to access your chakras. If you close your eyes and do energy excercises you can feel them, usually like someone is pressing on the spot they are located or a throbbing.