Hargart's Induction Technique Log (HILD)

Sounds awesome. I will try.

I tried this technique last night; here’s how it went:

I went to bed around 2:00 A.M. and woke up to my alarm at 7:00 (I can only wake up on my own if I practice it for a few nights). Unfortunately, I forgot why I had set my alarm so I got up and turned it off and stretched which kind of woke me up. Once I remembered this tech, I went back to bed to try it.

I did the finger movement for about two minutes between RCs since I was trying to get myself back on the verge of sleep. However, the RCs were keeping from falling asleep and I think I was actually getting less sleepy. So I gave up and decided just to go back to sleep and then after a while, to my suprise, I began to WILD (something I’ve never got far in doing before). It ended up going away :sad: , but I was much more into it than I have ever been.

I don’t know for sure that this tech was what cause the almost WILD, but I’d like to think it was. I’ll try again tonight.

hmm, I’ll try that tonight, whenever I listen to music, I wake up at the end of the CD, so this will allow me to take advantage of that. I hope I understand this…

Ok, I think iv found the best way to wake up (your music might work good too grizzled)

I went to bed at 1:30 am, and set an alarm exactly 3 hours after I go to sleep, so it was set at 4:30am.

(I have an alarm right next to my bed so i dont have to get up)

If you time it correctly, you should wake up rather quickly when the alarm goes off (in the REM stage)

Ok, So i did that last night, and I just tried relaxing for a few mins, try to get my self really tired (about to fall asleep). So i was like, ok i feel really tired, lets try this, but it didnt work (I felt too awake for some reaon, I wasnt sure why) and then looked at the clock - it was 6:40am … oops :smile:

I will set my alarm again for 3 hours later, and will try not to fall asleep this time, heh …

Also, I tried doing the tech at 6:40 am (sun out, and I can hear some sounds) and I could never get my self to the point where im just about to fall asleep…


Thanks for posting what happened!

Try waking you self up 3 hours after you go to sleep, and then try relaxing (w/o doing any movements or RCs). Be carefull you dont fall asleep :smile:

Once you feel tired again, try the tech. just once, and do a RC (I recomend using the nose RC, where you quickly hold you nose, and try to breath in, if you can, your dreaming)… If the RC fails, stop trying the tech, and try getting closer to the point where you almost fall asleep.

If it doesnt work after the 2nd - 3rd try, and you feel like your still awake, I would just go to sleep :smile:

Good Luck!
Post your results :smile:

I think I can try this…
Thanks for the technique.

When i tried this last time i didnt make it… but now i am more skilled knowing how long it is before im going to sleep. I mean… i can sense when i almost fell asleep… :smile: Going to try this again toinght for sure


How many hours after you went to bed did you try this?

well, it didn’t work because I totally fell asleep, but I’ll try agian tonight,

hargarts: i think i went to bed at 01.00 and woke up trying it around 5 or something… i didnt note the time… I forgot trying the tech tonight because i tried WILD :smile:

I want to tell you a funny thing… I was trying to WILD when i first went to bed… 23.30… When i woke up because my father came in at 00:00 i thought i was dreaming… and all that he said to me, I thought was a dream untill i did a RC when he was gone and i wasnt… HAHA LOL :happy:

-hargarts- I tried your technique this night !

I woke up (naturally) after 5 hours of sleep, and then I remembered your technique. It seems to be very good, but I’m not a WILDer, I never had a lucid dream with WILD. So after some tries, I decided to sleep… and I had a little MILD in which I was closing my nose ( I never used this RC before ) !

I have a question indeed :
When practising your technique, I didn’t dare to make a physical RC because I was afraid of awaking fully. In the technique, you have to make very small finger movements, but if you sit then on your bed, as you say, or even close your nose to RC, doesn’t it destroy the effect of asleeping ?

And a remark : could not be your technique more fruitful if you wake up after 4h30 or 5 hours ? The REM period would be longer than after 2 cycles, wouldn’t it ?

Same here. I was trying to get very close to falling asleep without actually going, but I nodded off.

Ok, I tried the alarm again, I was getting close, and then the stupid alarm went off again lol…

By that time it was getting bright out, and I could hear all those birds out side, after that, I felt relaxed, but never tired hmm… Maybe I should go to bed earlier… heh

I also need to try playing music in the background while im sleeping and see if that will wake me up at the correct time, and in a tired state.

** I need to set the alarm volume lower so I come out of the sleeping state slowly **

Basilus West,

The big problem is trying to not only get your self relaxed, but you have to be tired, and feel like you can fall asleep… If you slept 5-6 hours, you would have more REM, but I would find it hard trying to get into that “tired” state because your body doesnt need much more rest at that point.

About the movement… If you did a RC, and you were not in a dream, yes it would wake you up even more, but if the tech. works correctly, the RC would be done in a dream, along w/ the sitting up and getting out of bed, therefor it wouldnt wake you up…

And if you do the RC, and you are still awake, I would just go to sleep normally, and try again another day.

I think you can tell how awake you are if you open your eyes,

  • If you easily open your eyes, and feel awake, and rested, it’s not gonna work. Maybe someone is able to relax to that tired state again, but I know once I feel that feeling of being awake, I cant get rid of it.
  • If you open your eyes, still feel tired, and feel like you could easily go back to sleep, you have a good change of it working. (When It worked on my first attempt, I opened my eyes, and looked around before I tried the tech. … the feeling after i had opened my eyes was very different what you feel in the morning when you wake up normally… a feeling like Im not done resting, I need to sleep some more)

I think that the only way to get into this state is be slowly woken up in the middle of the night (when it’s still dark out (a MUST) - The sun will tell your mind that you are fully rested. Also, a sudden waking jolt from an alarm clock will cause you to lose it) or to somehow semi-wakeup after a dream in the morning (that’s what happned the very first time)

Much better results… I fell asleep tho betore I could try :smile:

Hola Folks!!

I tryed this method last night, well actually it was this morning but who cares, and my results were these:

I woke up at nine, forgot to set my alarm for four, anyway my dog was barking and woke me up, i did a reality check and nothing, i wasn’t sleeping so i decided i would try this method. I started to move my fingers, but instead of 10 secs. i went for about 2 min., i then sat up and did a RC, nothing. However as soon as my head hit the pillow i feel asleep dreaming that i was still in bed, i decided that i would do one more RC before i went to sleep, and low and behold, i was dreaming.

I then became Lucid for my second time and it lasted for about 10 min!!!

Thanks for the method!

Congratulations Demon! How long have you been LDing? :wink:

About three weeks, when i joined, had my first one a couple of days ago and now my second. :cool:

Congrats on your second LD!

How long did it last, and where you able to get out of your bed (I sometimes get SP w/in the dream, so it takes some effort to get up)?

I bet if you had been more tired, you would have fallen asleep while doing the movement :smile:

good job

It lasted about ten minutes, i’m guessing, but as soon as I realized that i was dreaming I sort of like found myself at school, and I wasn’t in the bed anymore. O_o

Also I think that it was a NREM LD because I could feel my RL body roll over and stuff while i was dreaming, and I wasn’t doing anything like rolling in the dream.

Are your LDs In NREM sleep also when you do this method?

Oh and thanks for the method, and the congrat!