Five years, honest to God, five years of on and off attempts.
I get as far as HI, but never any further.
I know confidence is a key contributer into WILD, but since I’ve been trying and failing for such a long time, I think WILD is now completely impossible for me.
Any second opinions?
WILD isn’t for everyone. Plus after trying one method for so long it is time to try a different one.
FILD is a nice alternative. You could also give MILD a fair trial too.
BTW did you do WILD in combination with WBTB? Since it is more likely to work when combined with WBTB.
I would’ve said the same thing as Moogle.
Yeah, you might need to find a new technique. Try MILD. That’s the one that i use and have very good sucess. If you need any pointers on MILD, let me know. The software Lucid Warp works wonders whenever i’m in a rut. 
It’s just that WILD is something I want to do. 
Woah! you’ve been trying since you were 12? now thats dedication! But yeah i’ll go with the others on this and suggest you try another technique or perhaps one of the bastard children of WILD like FILD or VILD.
I’ve been trying WILD for a year, along with other techniques but it just wont work for me, i rarely get to even reach HI! I have my mind set on it but i just cant do, so i know how you feel. I say try different methods but don’t give up on WILD, since i believe it’s the best way to LD, if you get it right.
Why don’t you try this: put on some music that you like, to play (I listen to Sonic Youth because their noises can be really nice for this kind of thing)and go to sleep. Concentrate on the music and let the music guide you to your LD. There you go a WILD that can suits you!
WILD is weird it takes too much time no DR what so ever for me, every time I do WBTB my DR increase a lot and my dream are always cool because I always pray to the stars, so I hardly need Lucid Dreams, be satisfied if you get nice dreams don’t try to be hog, there are ups & downs for LD
I’ve done that countless times. I’ve tried it with every kind of music i could think of but i just drift off and fall asleep each time. I need something to keep my mind awake but nothing seems to work for me. Still im not about to give up.
I’m guessing from your age that you’re possibly still at school, and therefor probably adhere to very regular sleep habits. I think that WILD is probably alot easier for someone like myself, a music student who does just about nothing except get up and play a few chords every day, meaning that I sleep all over different times of the day and drift all over the place. I have think a really messed up sleeping pattern helps. When I successfully had a WILD, I was actually ill, not going to my occasional lectures, so my sleep patern was even more messed up than usual (and that is very messed up). I think I had slept until the late afternoon the day before, then gone to sleep around lunch time and woken up in the late evening, watched around three or four hours of television mixed with browsing this forum, then made my attempt at about 01:00 in the morning, and it worked a treat. I haven’t had opportunity to have that kind of sleep pattern since then, and have failed in all my WILD attempts. So I think that may be it. I know I certainly would never have had a chance to sleep at those times all the years until I left home, so maybe that’s the key in your case, if my innitial assumption were anywhere near the mark. I don’t think it’s impossible for you or anyone as a person, but perhaps just inhibited by your current lifestyle. However, I wouldn’t recommend trying to mess up you sleep patterns just to get LDs, because the implications on waking life are not good. It’s depressing when you live out of sync with everyone else, and not productive to oversleep and miss lectures.
Ah, it has nothing to do with sleeping habits. I wasn’t able to do it for some time either then I read about this “counting” some guy wrote.
So, basically, you go to bed, and when you start feeling tired, not too tired, start counting. This guy said he counted to 500, then to 1000 and then to 2000 and nothing happened. Well, I counted to 70 and made it. Count every breath, and if your mind wanders then for some kind of a punishment start all over again. Don’t try to reach any number, just count.
And I added something to this method. When you count, concentrate on that sound you hear in your head when it’s really quiet. The way I see it, doin that you concentrate on two things, counting and focusing on that sound, so you really keep your mind busy while body goes to sleep.
I think it works EVERY TIME, when it fails it means you failed to concentrate and your mind wandered before you fell a sleep. If you try hard enough, and concentrate on these two thing WHEN you fall asleep it will work. Or, I may be wrong 
I just wanted to say that listening to that sound when you slowly fall asleep has helped me have SP in the distant past, so i think that’s a good idea. Counting seems pretty useful too, for many LDers.
I’ve had a lot of trouble with WILD, too, but that sounds like something I haven’t tried yet. I’ll see how it goes.
Hehehe.
I’ve attempted every method out there (with or without success)
Counting somewhat worked, but it was just too boring (I suffer from mild ADD… hehehhehehee). I went for hours counting… constantly skipping hundreds (unconsciously) eventually counting like 536… 425… It kind of became robotic after a while.
And I have gone to bed listening to music (unfortunately, the only music I DON’T entirely ignore is heavy metal… You can imagine how tough it is to fall asleep to that noise (even at a low volume).
Heck, I even tried some hypnotism mp3s including I-Dozer, Cursed Lucid Dreams, ummm… and some other one that I can’t recall (but it was a really nice soundtrack that kept me in SP… until it ended. Problem is, my music is too short (playlists and whatnot). I always make my playlists too short (even if they eat up 2+ hours) and I fear if I put my iPod on shuffle, some loud song will wake me up (I DO have some death metal on there… lots of the screaming stuff 
).
LD foods don’t seem to have much impact either. I kind of believe a lot are just placebo affect.
WBTB seems to only work for me (at inducing LDs) on accident. Usually when I’m under stress and I constantly look up at my clock to see how much time I have left to sleep. Otherwise, I just have normal dreams.
I think that’s the problem, you can’t let counting “drift off” you have to concentrate on it…if you’re jumping from 10 to 56 your mind wandered. Then start from 0, and concentrate on every number as you breathe…that’s what I do.
Yeah, I do that. 
How the hell do you fall asleep without wandering at all!!! GOD!! I’ll never get this!!
I never said I “drift off”. I counted like that and even thought to myself “Hey, that’s wrong.” and went back to counting normally from that number… and it would make a jump every once in a while.
Five hours of counting.
Yeah.
Sounds real productive.
EDIT: Please ignore my sarcasm… 
I think you should tackle this from a different angle, have you tried self hypnosis?
You can “program” your brain to be able to WILD a lot more easily, use an autosuggestion, something like “I’m aware when I move from wake to dream” or more direct approach, hmm “I WILD whenever I want” or something like that, everything you say to yourself must be absolute and without any negative words such as ‘no’, because the opposite will happen/
Good Luck