Last night and the night before. I laid down on my back to go to sleep. I started seeing purple blobs in my eyelids and after a minute it felt like someone kept putting more and more blankets on top of me, and i start to get so numb in my toes that eventually i can’t feel my feet anymore. And this is just in a couple minutes right before going to bed. But i don’t quite feel SP farther up my body. sometimes in my arms. But i can do this freely whenever i want to before going to bed
(I hate laying on my back to sleep, but that is the only way i can enter SP)
Thats is not necessarily true. As this sense of fear is only influenced by your feelings and thoughts. You could feel scared or you could see rainbow ponies as well.
It’s just the body going numb, but it can lead to sleep paralysis.
You’ll know when you enter SP, trust me.
Also, what NF said. What you see or hear during SP is only based on your expectations and feelings.
If you are afraid and expect to be really scared, then you will be.
Many people have grown accustomed to it, so they see/hear nothing like that.
It’s up to you.
That’s just because you’re a fearful person. It’s funny how you tell us that you have had many LD’s, but still, you haven’t solved any of your subconcious/concious fears.
The only time that I remember experiencing SP, was part of a dream that I was trying not to move for fear that the people nearby would notice that I was awake. This was inside the dream, but I did wake up at a couple points. At this time, this “evil presence” was the two figures in my dream. I didn’t believe they were in my room, but I kept slipping back and fourth between ‘that place’ and my room. After a few slips, I became more in touch with waking, but all that I really noticed, was that I couldn’t control my eyelids. They were about 3/4 of the way closed, and I couldn’t change that. I was able to look around my room, but for a while I didn’t even realize I couldn’t move anything else, because i didn’t want to.
The interesting thing, is that typically for me, fear remains constant within my dreams and waking. As I said, I’m prone to paranoia. But during this time, as I slipped back and fourth, I only felt their presence inside my dream, and it was temporarily gone while I was in my room. I’m not so sure it was fear, rather caution, that made me not want to move. After a while when I was more awake than asleep, a strange feeling started to creep over me. The best way I can describe it is that I felt like I was turning into stone. Though that seems backwards, If i was coming out of SP.
But anyways, it wasn’t till after I was awake, and the SP was gone, that I felt this heavy wave of this ‘evil presence’ you’re talking about.
In regards to the OP, what you’re talking about, as mentioned, isn’t SP. You’re talking about being heavily relaxed. You can break out of that by simply moving. SP prevents you from moving regardless of how hard you try.
Haha reminds me of yesterday night. I remember waking up from a dream and feeling pinned/crushed down against my bed, I couldn’t even breathe and it was all dark, I literally thought for a second…ohh…what if the earth’s gravity randomly increased overnight? lool it was a fun experience though!
I too get into SP laying on my back, lying on my sides makes me fall asleep quicker cause it’s much more comfortable for me.
You don’t think SP can be induced at will? You do realize that SP happens every single time one enters REM. During dreaming your body must paralyze the voluntary muscles so that you don’t act out your dreams. This is commonly called sleep paralysis, though the technical name is REM atonia. The distinction between the two is that REM atonia is the normal paralysis associated with sleep and SP is when you are awake/conscious/not dreaming while experiencing REM atonia.
The aim of things like WILD however is to stay awake as the body falls asleep. Consequently, your going to experience SP alot because the body paralyzes itself as you enter REM.
Sleep paralysis doesn’t by any means guarantee feelings of evil, or scary hallucinations. I rarely experience anything scary or evil. While it differs radically from person to person I typically feel vibrations (like I am being shocked, but painlessly) and sometimes hear strange popping sounds. Feelings of an evil presence are not uncommon though because many people when experiencing SP don’t know what is happening and since they are still partially in REM sleep their fears often manifest as terrifying hallucinations that serve to further their fears.
Sleep paralysis is a condition in which you can see the room around you but are paralyzed and unable to move. This doesn’t happen to everyone every night. It happens very rarely, and most people never experience it at all.
I didn’t say that it’s guaranteed that you’ll sense an evil presence in the room while you’re in this condition. But that tendency exists. And furthermore, the thing that’s in the room with you, whatever it is, will tend to crawl or fly onto your chest and pin you down. This is obviously where the stories of vampires and incubi orignated.
The short story by Guy de Maupassant called The Horla, which is posted online, is also based on this experience.
All of this information is on Google. Just search for “sleep paralysis.”
Thank you, thank you so much for this distinction! I’m so sick of talking about my SP experiences, or wondering how to get rid of them, and having people only concentrate on how I got the terms wrong because it happens naturally every night and I could just let it be, and I’m just like, Shut up! That’s not what I’m talking about and what you’re saying does. Not. Help. Okay?!?
No, no. It’s like Lucidity_Master said. Everyone goes through “SP” every night. It’s a normal part of sleeping. Those who don’t, are usually sleep walkers, or wake up in their car at wallmart.
I don’t know about your sources, but unless some major mechanic about sleep has changed recently, I’m pretty sure what I’ve said is correct. My source involves psychologists with PHD’s in real-life face to face conversation. So I don’t how valid your sources are.
ADD:
The term SP is not perfectly the way to identify it. Generally when we say “SP”. we mean the conscious experience of sleep paralysis, which IS waking up and finding yourself unable to move. But sleep paralysis itself is a very normal part of sleep. You just rarely ever ‘experience’ it.
Ah ha… Second ADD
I see what you’re saying, I’m just agreeing with you. I hope this helps other people understand it right.
Yeah, as far as I know Loah is right; everyone goes through SP every night, we just don’t notice it because we are dreaming. What Arne probably means is that people rarely experience it while awake, while concious, which is true.
Yes, that is what I do believe I said it was. When you do WILD however, you are inducing this exact state. People don’t usually open their eyes when they are doing WILD, but if you did so after entering REM it would be exactly as you described. You would be paralyzed unable to move and seeing the room you are in.
I feel like you didn’t read my post very throughly. I explained that yes, this tendency to feel an evil presence is there and I explained why. When most people have sudden awakenings from REM and are paralyzed it is a scary experience. Imagine waking up to find yourself paralyzed, thats pretty traumatic. Couple this fact with the knowledge they are still partially in REM and bam, you get terrifying hallucinations.
What you’re doing is confusing SP with Old Hag phenomenon. The two are linked because the fear associated with SP combined with the sleeper still being in a state of partial REM sleep creates the potential for intense and vivid hallucinations.
I have had sleep paralysis many, many times; rarely has it been scary or evil feeling in any way. Once I understood SP and why I was experiencing what I was it was no big deal. If I ever did have any scary SP related hallucinations I didn’t care and just relaxed and let it become a dream again.
I had SP many times. And yes, it can be induced. That’s my case. And no, I haven’t had much bad experiences with it. My friend had an old hag… So one day I started talking about LD’s with my friends, he took me to the side and explained me the situation. I said to him that he must stay still and calm, and everything is going to be alright. Now he wants to induce SP without thinking about LD’s, he thinks SP is cool. Which actually can be, if it’s combined with strong hypnagogia music and pictures. A legal, free high I say.
For me I can’t necessarily induce it, but rather stay awake and aware of it when it happens. How still I am and tired I am will determine how long it takes to begin.
As some people have corectly pointed out, what you have experienced was not SP. It was a simple relaxation of the body, which is ready for sleep, but you keep it awake. Those “purple blobs” are a common sight when the body is relaxed. But it is not HI or HH.
A sleep paralysis, on the other hand, is a completely different experience. You won’t get paralysed by going to bed in the evening. Sleep paralysis hits when you are in REM. REM doesn’t happen when you go to bed in the evening for the first hour or so. It is not “just your body going numb”. You feel paralysed, wrapped up, unable to move, frequently seeing lots of flashes, hallucinations and buzzing or clear sounds or voices. Try WILD’ing after WBTB. You will certainly see what I mean.
I often wake up in SP, it used to seriously freak me out and sometimes it still does. You are totally paralyzed, even when you try to wake up by moving a finger it feels like you have to move a hundred pounds. Egh lol
Lately I have been experimenting with it, but I have never thought to go into an LD with it. “I just started seriously getting into LD” The thing is you almost are afraid to “lose consciousness” even though everything will be ok" and awesome if you found yourself in an LD. But yeah if you are at all claustrophobic you will HATE SP! lol
lool it was a fun experience though!
