I just had a weird thought...

Doesn’t your mind seem like is trying to prevent you from having lucid dreams? What if there is a reason for this? Most things in your body and brain have a point to them. Is it possible that lucid dreaming is dangerous, and your body is trying to prevent you from having them for this reason?

I hope somebody will prove me wrong. :neutral:

Lucid dreaming is as dangerous as normal dreaming.

However, I think it doesn’t allow you to have lucid dreams because it has to process all the information during the day…it RESTS.

Well, you still can achieve lucidity.

:welcome: to the forums!

I wouldn’t say the mind is trying to prevent lucid dreams, but how often in the course of waking life do you seriously question reality? :rc:

I don’t think the reason is that it’s dangerous. It’s like a gag reflex, that’s meant to stop you from choking, but it can also act up when you’re just trying to brush your tongue.

I dont know. Lucid dreaming probably could drive you crazy, but thats probably not highly probable.

I don’t think the brain is TRYING to prevent you. I don’t know exactly what you are referring to. But is it not possible that it is just difficult? It is a mental effort. The REM stage might just be one of those states where concentration is more difficult and the mind tends to wander. Compare it to trying to walk a straight line while drunk: It’s possible, but not as easy as when you’re sober.

I suppose if you take the view that dreams are meant to be a simulation of reality, as a sort of rehearsal for hypothetical situations, then being lucid ruins the illusion. The practise is worth more if you think it is reality.
The simulation approach also carries with it a reason for your dreams to respond to your expectations. If you think something should be some certain way as you have learned in waking life, the dream will mimick it, at least it might if you start wondering why this is not the case at this particular time. This might seem like an attempt to convince you that you are dreaming, but is more likely just business as usual to the dreaming brain. That is, providing a convincing replica of life.

Yeah, that’s what I said.
Dreams are supposed to be processed in the brain while you are asleep.
When you are lucid, you mess it up.Then you don’t dream the way you were supposed to.

As I said before, lucid dreaming is NOT dangerous.So you can just keep trying.

Well some people are natural lucid dreamers and other’s aren’t. It would be natural it for them wouldn’t it?

I think the reason why we don’t lucid dream every single night in every single dream is because we wouldn’t be getting enough rest. You would wake up in the morning feeling very exhausted because I read somewhere that when you lucid dream your brain is functioning as if it was actually awake.

With normal dreams though your "feminine side/creative side of your brain is more present/active then your LOGICAL side of your brain which is why the randomest things can happen and be said during dreams. Also another part of your brain is off ( forgot what) which is why we may find it difficult to remember dreams unless trained.

Actually, the brain activity, in sheer quantity, is roughly the same between LD and ND; in a LD you’re conscious of what’s happening around you, but it happens anyway, LD or not.

As a firm Lucid Living believer, my opinion would be that the only fact preventing you from getting lucid is the fact that you’re not trained enough to react appropiately to external stimuli, that is, stop being sucked in the situation and starting to observe it in a more objective, all-inclusive way.

For achieving lucidity, like anything in life, some ways are better than others:
Imagine you were learning to ride a bike, by yourself, without trying training wheels first; the first times, you would no doubt fall to the ground after a few secs, if not immediately, and you would probably hurt yourself (that is even worse than LD’s, because you nothing bad happens if you don’t get lucid). What would you do then? Think that it’s impossible? That you aren’t truly capable of such a thing? Of course not! Everyone learns sooner or later to ride a bike, and so can you, with the right method.
All skills require practice, and any level below mastery can indeed be reached by anyone; it’s just easier, though, to take it at the right pace and by small, easy steps (like using training wheels), ask for advice and help (like your dad teaching you).

Back from the metaphor, a proven easy, intermediate step would be meditation; advice and help can be found here and consists mainly of lucidity techniques for both day and night and food/supplements suggestions.
Hope i cleared someone’s doubts.

Well, I have about 5 lucid dreams a night on average, and I’m rested in the morning. I do currently have some fatigue problems, but that’s due to my medication, not lucid dreaming. It’s stressful dream content, not lucidity, that can make me feel worn out in the morning. When lucid, I’ll be more interested in going with the flow than going manipulation and dream control crazy. Crazy manipulation lucid dreams are for the mornings when I’m close to having enough sleep already. :wink: This seems to be the case for other naturals I’ve talked to who have lucid dreams as well - we just naturally go with the dream plot and just change something when we feel like it, which we probably do to prevent ourselves to get worn out from getting too involved.

When we are in REM sleep, our brain activity is very similar to our waking brain activity. In the UK, REM sleep is often called paradoxical sleep for this very reason. However, when we are in REM sleep, the logic center of our brain will be inactive, and it is believed, but not proved, that this part of the brain is active during lucid dreaming.

I doubt.

Actually, most people report feeling relaxed after being in an LD

man i always hear this mind=blown