i had a funny thought the other day.
if you kill dc’s right, and your lucid when you do it,
what would happen, if you are tested on a lie detector, and one of the questions is, have you ever killed a person before.
i know that dc’s aren’t real people, but wouldn’t it be funny if it came up you killed real people, if you catch my drift.
any thoughts?
A dream where I know I’m dreaming doesn’t mean I automatically get a lot of dream control… so, when I kill a DC, oftentimes they come back! (Not even as ghosts or zombies, just a little grouchy that I killed them.)
Guess that means I have great psychological endurance? But I can’t be remorseful enough to spike the vital signs on a lie detector if the murder victims don’t die… but then again, I haven’t tried being hooked up to a lie detector, so maybe…
I killed my first DC last night in a looong time. Haven’t done that for ages before… I strangled him with a stick against the ground.
Your idea is quite interesting, acillis. I think it depends on the person’s level of awareness, on the ability to distinguish real life from dreams. Or for instance if you lucid dream a lot and you have a habit of killing DCs, I think there’s a pretty high chance a lie detector would take that as a ‘yes’.
no i doubt this highly. dreaming is not real life. your mind can tell the difference between the two. I just see no possible way of this ever happening.
i do sometimes have thoughts that something happened when it was in fact a dream, but things like killing someone I think you would remember clearly that it was a dream.
pssh lie detectors are faulty anyway…
BTW:
Can you clarify that? that makes no logical sense to me at all. Its like a nonsequiter paradox. hmm.
I didn’t mean I killed my first DC ever, if you’re confused about that.
What I meant was that I don’t remember killing any dream characters before, thus it may have or may have not been the first time for me. In any case it must have been a long time without killing DCs before last night.
Why am I finding this so hard to explain… hhmm… Need to stop using those brainwave generator presets since not only I’m losing the touch with reality but also I can’t even express myself coherently anymore.
does a reality check
How polygraph tests work is by measuring your emotional reactions. If you get nervous, it will show, that is how they define a lie on a polygraph test. you answer and get nervous. If you do not get nervous, they don’t get a reading.
Whether you get nervous or not, depends on many things. but playing along with the test, it depends on if you believe you are telling the truth or not.
When asked if you ever killed anybody, would you assume that DCs also count? The question is asked by somebody. What does this somebody mean when asking the question? Most people are not very interested in dreams so there is no particular reason to assume the interrogator cares about DCs. Unless, the context necessitates this assumption.
But if you are thinking about this test is not to reveal what you have done, but to reveal what you are like as a person. That the real question is, do you have murder in your heart? Then you may feel that it is dishonest to say no. If so, I think maybe it will show.
I don’t think killing a DC in a lucid dream would do it. If you know it’s a dream character, you know it’s only as bad as killing people on ‘Grand Theft Auto’. I believe that this would be more likely in normal dreams. I had this dream where I was someone else, but I was still aware and remember making decisions, and I thought it was all real. I wasn’t just being dragged along in this dream, I was living in it. Anyway, I ended up killing up to ten people in a desperated fight for my freedom, and I feel like I actually did kill those people. Of course, there’s no consequence becuase it was imagined, but I didn’t know they were imagined when I did it, so I have a guilty mind. I also feel that if the same situation were to arrise in reality, I would do the same. The effects of this on me are only slight, because I should imagine that most of the trauma of killing someone comes from dealing with the guilt over the berievement of loved ones and so on, and I avoided that because it happened to be a dream. Also, I was morally sound in my actions.
I’m a bit drunk right now, and, slightly, or rather, moderately, maybe even significantly impared. But let me ponder this for a moment. Mighty mutant, you mention guilt. I think it would contribute to the reading on the test. But, as long as you don’t believe you are telling a lie, it should hopefully not get a strong enough reading. Because you know the interrogator mean peopel in real life, and is not inquiring about your personality. What you do in a dream can only reflect your mental life. So. it is a matter of interpretation of the question.
If you believe that what the interrogator wants to know is whether you have ended the life of another physical human being, then you can honsetly say “no I have not”. Bu if you think that he is trying to find out what kind of person you are. What fantasies and pervertions you have. If you are “into that sort of thing” so to speak. Then your response wil lreflect that. I think so anyway. Even if it is phrased as something referring to the physical world.
So if the context is right. and you have reson to believe the question implies more than to ask if you hav eperformed a certain function in society and the phsycial universe, then. maybe. just maybe, you will get nervous enough, to sweat on the finger sweat monitorsm and breathe more heavily and fast. and beat your heart harder and faster, to cause sa significant reading on the paper upun which these reactions are recorded.
Sorry if I… respond for no reason. Even in my intoxicated state, I sense that I need not respond to this. But I do anyway. Because quite frankly. I’m a little bit bored.
If you have a serious issue defining reality and dreams then maybe so, but most people in their right mind would not make this mistake. You also have to consider how the test is conducted, which krakatoa elaborated on.
That’s interesting. Someone should try it out.
No. Or else you would get nervous for killing people in video games.
Probably not…but then again, there are oftentimes when dreams really do feel exactly like reality. It’s definitely not the same as playing a game or watching a movie. Thinking back to killing a DC may well be enough for some people to actually register as having killed a person on a polygraph test. And for others, there’s probably no way they’d ever even consider killing a DC even remotely similar to actually killing someone. It really depends a lot, on the person, the level of lucidity during the “killing,” and whether or not they consider it killing someone at all or not.