Limitations

To my best understanding one’s ability to control a lucid enviroment stems from their will and belief that they can change it. but is there anything that is simply impossible in a lucid dream?:grr:

From what i can tell, everything and anything is possible, and the only limitations i have faced is remembering my goals while in a lucid state. :uh:
But in your expirience, what are or were your personal hurdles? What goals in lucid dreaming did you have trouble attaining or still cannot achieve? :mirror:

C’est la Vie!

MAC

I’d say there’s nothing that’s impossible - potentially your mind can construct any situation or experience.
We tend to be held back though in our lucid dreams by the same constraints which we face in our daily lives. We remain “ourselves” while lucid and this can create a block, limiting our lucid activities. These constraints can be overcome though I think, It just takes a lot of time and effort in the lucid world.

Its a bit like freeing your mind of all conventional laws of science and so on.

“Free your mind.”

-Morpheus.

Simple as that I guess, the only limits are the ones we impose upon ourselves, whether through disbelief, doubt, assumption, etc.

In a LD nothing is impossible, as long as you have a clear mind and a good intent.

yup thats it, only limit is your mind and willpower, if your mind doesnt accept it, make it accept it simple as that (or not :razz:)

One of my biggest problems w/ LD’ng is trying to manipulate and change the appearance of spiders. As much and hard as I try, I can’t get the darn things to change. That’s one of my personal goals for ld’s.

But I do agree that anything is possible. I’m just not there yet.

I can’t fly.
Or walk through walls.
Or run really fast.
Or not run out of breathe wehn I run (odd really, as I’m not really running).
Or…

The thing is, though, is that I will do these things, sooner or later. And at the moment, I have plenty of other thigns to keep me interessted until then…

In my experience there is nothing that is impossible to do in a lucid dream so long as you remember that it is a dream and you are in control and that you believe you can do it. With that said I have a long list of things I want to do in a lucid dream that I have not done yet. Not because I can’t but I still get emerged into my lucid dreams and just cant resist the urge to play in my dreams. So I would say self control is probably the one obstacle I have yet to overcome. But I will. :smile:

There are some things which are virtualy ‘impossible’ to achieve. For instance: prolonging a dream to fit 10000 years of time…

I doubt that anyone is able to do this because it would demand a level of clarity I can’t even imagine…

I don’t know, there are people who have boasted that they could have lucid dreams that seemed to last a lifetime. If they could do that then what you suggest would not be that far of a stretch.

If you believe you can’t then you will prove yourself correct. :smile:

Only thing I can think of is manipulating an object or causing an object to appear in your direct line of sight. Peripheral vision is far more easy to create visual material or changes because your mind is not under so much stress of detail like it would have with something that you are looking directly at. Really the easiest way to have something change or appear is to “think” about it being behind you, so you’re not seeing it at all until you turn around. That gives your mind time to prepare with little or no stress.

Believe you can, believe you can’t, either way you’re right"

Henry Ford

Well, I should add that some people seem to have bad luck in a lucid dream, say, failure to fly the frist time they try. That makes them expect to fail the next time, and so they believe they can’t do it. It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
I myself seem to have this problem with flying at high speeds or high altitudes. I believe it’s just a matter of accomplishing it once, then I’ll know I can do it, and I’ll do it again :smile:

Yeah, me too. But its just probably because it was pretty low-lucid.

How many are able to perform logical manipulation in a lucid dream, such as deriving the quadratic formula? Anyone ever tried to do math in an LD?

Not myself, I’m usually too busy looking for a Ferrari or Natalie Portman :happy:

However, Einstein did achieve the “eureka” of his theory of relativity during a dream. So you certainly can calculate complex theories in dreams.

Morpheus: Traditional diety of dreams.

That movie is as subtle as a sledgehammer wrapped around a large, enraged rhino.

In a monster truck.

Sorry! I’m being critical…

Amy

well ‘eureka’ is very different from actually deriving and manipulating discrete symbols. This difficult is the basis of why text are not normal in dreams. When you read a sentence in a dream that is misspelled very badly, it still makes sense for you, because the meaning is delivered to you directly, where the text is just the representation that a message is being transfered.

You don’t miss much not being able to do math in a dream however.

The quote I repeated there was an example of what can help overcome limitations in a dream :wink:
‘Freeing your mind’ works though, quite good actually. By that I mean, looking at the situation your really in, and then acting.

“I’m not really on top of a building, I’m in the Construct, so I can jump over buildings…” Neo might’ve thought :content:

Now an off topic note; I don’t get what you mean, did you like the Matrix or not? :tongue:

Some LD’ers tried this. You don’t have to search such complicated formulas. It’s difficult enough to do a simple multiplication. :grin: