To CODER : Have you tried that WILD inducer? What was the result?
Of course… hypnagogic imagery.
I’ve tried this a little bit now (though not the WILD inducer) and here are my thoughts in general:
I’ve found the preface a little bit difficult to figure out at first glance. A page explaining what’s what etc. could be well at first startup and also in the help menu, though not quite necessary.
I really liked the thing up there which we could move those three… things. I don’t know how to call them, sorry. I interpreted the blue things as “dream start time” and “dream end time”, but couldn’t find something for the green one. Could you please explain that?
Frankly I found the “Checks” part innecessary. It was, for me, but then again things may be different for different people. Just saying.
What are “exercises”?
It might be due to my misusage, but I always kept getting a “new character 2” beneath the “characters” tab for some reason. That didn’t occur with locations, actions, objects or anything else in the “categories”.
I couldn’t get the following to be associated with the dream (you know, how they appear at the bottom when I save the dream): location I created, action I created, theme I created, anger, fear and joy.
This is just something too little, but “admiration” has typos.
That’s it. I am quite used to scribbling on a tiny notebook in the middle of the night when I wake up, but I’m seriously considering using this to at least record my lucid dreams in order to keep them orderly and neat.
I really liked how it creates pie graphs and coulmn graphs by itself, btw.
Thanks for all the feedback!
- That is my number one request - I guess some people actually do read manuals.
- The slider control is actually for setting the sleep start and stop time (blue) and the estimated time that you were dreaming (green).
- The RCs are just there for legacy support and fun and games.
- The exercises are training sessions for clarity of mind. If you have any good ones that I can include, please share.
- That sounds about right - you probably already have a “new character” file in there. Just rename it / save it with a different title.
- You need to have the word in the text of the dream for it to be associated.
- Thanks, I have fixed that.
Thanks! The graphs and search functions will only improve over time…
Okay, I feel really dumb, but it wont let me download it. I go to the page, click “Download Now (5.88 MB)” and all it does is refresh the page.
That could be due to a pop-up blocker. If you hold down control (assuming you have a PC) while you click it should override that for you.
About the exercises… (I didn’t see something like this neither at RCs nor at exercises) so maybe you could include a computer based RC-reminder that could pop up every hour and say something along the lines of “Are you dreaming?”. There are programs like that already, but I think it could be better if it was included in this DJ application. Or maybe there could be photographs of places that are in some way altered to include something that isn’t supposed to be there. The user could be asked to find those things, therefore possibly increasing the user’s attention on his/her surroundings.
I knew about the association thing when I first posted, and this was what I had done: I created a few characters first, then a few locations etc with all of them. I made sure to change the “words” part of the new entry, and then I just wrote all of them down in a new dream entry. Most of what I wrote worked when I saved the dream. That somehow didn’t work with location, action, theme and a few emotions.
Yeah, and at a overall view, the UI is pretty complex, i agree. The lack of a good manual is also a negative point. And thus, LIQUID DREAM III is for advanced users, am i right?
I think it’s very useful but the lack of a manual is a big drawback. I’ve pieced together most of now though. Perhaps some of us could help the author write up some documentation on how to use the software.
The one thing I haven’t figured out is what is represented by the y-axis on the dream graph (numbers from 0 - 800 *** Found out this is the length of the dream in words) and what the green and white sections are for on the graph.
The one feature that I would like to see added is a “goals” section which would basically be a to-do list for LDs.
The one bug I’ve found so far is that If I reference a “theme” in one of my dream logs, while it associates with the theme if I select it from the left pane, when I’m looking at the dream it does not add it to the “themes” section for that dream on the bottom pane.
togro: Try these download sites: softpedia.com/get/Others/Hom … -III.shtml.
Puce: I like the idea of a RC pop-up - I can then log and graph the historical stats. I think I found the problem - if a category item has less than 5 characters / letters in it, it does not get picked up. I will fix that asap, thank you.
Rinaldo Rex: I did not realize until now how important the manual is. For now, intermediate users can just click on New -> Dream, change the title and write down the dream.
spizzak: The y-axis on the monthly overview is the length of the dreams (word count). The green spline range is the hours slept and the white spline area is the moon phase. The hours slept and dream time are set in the dream edit control in the slider or the fields next to date. Any suggestions on how the Goals section should look like - I guess it needs a checkbox somewhere and perhaps a way to link it to dreams?
I would really appreciate it if you guys could help with some documentation. I have been getting most of my visitors from lucid-dream-like youtube comments, e.g.: youtube.com/watch?v=I4U6T_BB1N8. I suspect that I lose quite a lot of visitors because they search within Google Video and don’t find anything. So I figure a simple video showing how to create a new dream and set up a REM Cycle (trick is 04h00 after falling sleep) would go a long way.
@ I am the coder : I really want to thank you in many aspect… First, for trying and feedback, secondly for giving links, and finally for your interest to help others… Thanks again.
Sure, and thanks for all the feedback!
I just uploaded a new version (3.0.8) - the category items should now display shorter words. Puce and spizzak, please let me know if this works for you (you might need to save the dream again). Just click on Help -> About and follow the link for the update. I would really appreciate it if you can hit the Like / Tweet buttons on your way through!
Bug is fixed! Thanks a lot.
I will try to find some time to make some tutorials or documentation in the near future. What format would be the best do you think?
Yes, I’ve got the same result as spizzak.
Still a few questions and/or pieces of feedback from me though:
How does the “unassigned” part work? Because it gets some words from the text while leaving out some others and I’m not sure about it.
The association picker thing doesn’t work with words with spaces. For example even when I add “TV remote” as an object, after writing it in the dream part and saving I get nothing new in the “objects” category and a “remote” in the “unassigned” category.
It’s great that it has a spellcheck feature, but would it be possible for it to start that red cross line after the word is completed? I know that this is very trivial, and it is not necessarily necessary, but I think it would be better that way.
I’m pretty sure this just leaves out commonly used words
Did you list it under “words” for that object. For example the object name would be “TV Remote” and then under words you can add tv, remote, tv remote, etc. I have no issue with this.
Ps. The Text-To-Speech in this thing is surprisingly good.
Putting in “TV, remote, TV Remote” under “words” did work (previously I only had “TV remote” there), but also created two problems:
- When the dream goes “blah blah blah TV remote blah blah”, then it picks it up twice and shows two TV remotes in the list at the bottom on the screen.
After erasing “remote” from the list of words from there, I tried the sentence “I picked up the TV remote and then put the TV remote back down.” and the program still counted two TV remotes in the objects panel.
I think that needs to be fixed. I mean, one TV remote is enough.
- In another dream, when I type in “TV screen”, the association thing picks that one up as “TV remote” as well.
So, I think “TV remote” must be picked up by the program by itself without needing to put in “TV” and “remote” to the words as well, for it may lead to other problems.
The unassigned list currently just shows any words from the dream with 5 or less characters. I will change that one day to show all words, but filter out the common ones.
This is definitely still a problem - the category items are associated to a dream by looping through all the words in a dream and checking if an item exists for that word - thus missing items that have multiple words. I will change it to run through all the category items and check if that appears in the dream. That should also stop it from picking up an item twice.
Thanks. I don’t advertise that, as it speaks for itself.
You can technically get it to speak in your dreams by creating a new recording without actually recording any sound and then typing something in the text box. Save it and then create a new REM Cycle and add the recording to it. Hit play and it will speak the text when the time arrives, or right-click on the cloud and select Play!
And you should be able to continue using the application while an REM Cycle is running - you just can’t load a different REM Cycle.
Can someone explain the use of Rem Cycles, I heard Iam Coder say the trick is 4h into sleep. I kind of came to that conclusion myself. Only problem is. If I wake up 4 hrs into sleep and start the Rem Cycles, I often can’t fall back to sleep for 30-60min. This offsets all the cycles, and since I can’t very well know the moment I’m falling asleep I can’t hit the button as I fall asleep.
Any ideas how to compensate for this? I wonder if there is a program that can start it for me. My proposed solution for the creator would be to build in a delay, or program the ability to run rem cycle on a schedule, or be able to set an intro period to the cycles.
Click on New -> REM Cycle.
Right click on the chart and select Import -> Sound File…
Drag the cloud by the little “x” to 270 (for 04h30).
Click on Play (or F5).
Then simply wait for 270 minutes and the file should play. And make sure that your computer’s power plan will not interfere!