Iv’e been trying to obtain lucididty for a while now (about 3 months)
but have had no prevail…
Ive tried both WILD and MILD techneques but they don’t seem to work for me 
and now im starting to loose hope…
what should i do iv’e heard aftar a while you should just quit, am i at this stage? 
You shouldn’t give up hope. It just takes people different amounts of time before they experience their first lucid dream. You should give the methods a longer try, plus they are more likely to work if used with WBTB. If you get too frustrated then a short break from actively trying to become lucid can help, since it will take away the stress.
The key is to enjoy your normal dreams too and be confident that one of these nights you will become lucid 
Also try looking up the HILD method I think it sounds quite interesting. I’m going to take a break from WILD to try this a few times, maybe you should to? 
You might also try the RC method: Do many Reality Checks as you can in the waking life, you will do one in a dream eventually. Otherwise, like Moogle said: Take a short break, it sometimes makes miracles 
are you keeping a journal of your dreams? if not i highly suggest you start one on this site, it does loads for recall and will get you to remember your dreams and recognize dreamsigns!
ps, never lose hope!
I want to correct you, you may keep your DJ secret, you don’t have to keep it here, but know that other people can give you useful advice, tell similarities in your dreams (common dreamsigns) etc.
Keeping a Dream Journal helps to improve your ability to recall dreams. That way you can remember your dreams and also get answers to your questions, regarding your SC.
I’ve been consciously chasing after the elusive LD for probably 6 months now, finally registering to the site back in September. I just had the first LD of those 6 months last week (atleast the first I remember). It can take a while
Everyone has given good advice here, and elsewhere on the forums. As moogle mentioned, maybe taking a short break would help. I stopped obsessing over it and just accepted my ND’s for a while. After I got back into it, I made sure to do RC’s more often, and a brief LD followed.
When you’re starting out I think it’s got to be like the “a watched kettle never boils”. You’ve got to just let it happen. Afterwards, maybe a MILD or WILD would work, but I have trouble with those. Usually it just keeps me awake.
thanks guy’s, im gonna look up HILD pretty soon, but with WBTB i can’t really understand what you do… 
There are 2 ways of doing WBTB
the official way of waking and doing something LD related for 30 mins or an hour and then doing MILD or WILD etc
or just waking for a very short period just long enough to reset the intention to lucid dream. Since the rem periods are longer later in the night the odds of having a successful long LD increase.
oh ok…i looked up HILD, looks pretty tricky and a lttile to complicated…i might try it some time…later
Here you go, a HILD tutorial from another forum. I am actually going to try this tonight, if I can get the memorization down for everything.
Original link: dreamviews.com/community/sho … php?t=6214
Original Poster: Gothlark (not me, or mine)
[code]This is a tutorial on how to hypnotize ones self and, more specifically, how one can induce a large amount of long, vivid, highly lucid, realistic lucid dreams in a short amount of time. Hypnosis is working with your subconscious and dreams are your subconscious’ world. That means you can get your subconscious to want you to become lucid.
I’ve had a lot of experience with this. This tutorial is based on my experience that this is an extremely efficient method. I say this because within a month of starting lucid dreaming I had six lucid dreams in six nights with this method. I’m not saying that this will work as well for everyone who tries this technique as it did for me, just that this is how well it worked for me. Narrate to yourself or in other words use internal dialogue. Lay in whatever position is most comfortable to you. Doing this before sleep is probably best, however you may fall asleep if you do it at this time. The following will be in a step-by-step format to keep it simple.
- Count from one to one hundred while breathing deeply in and out to the rhythm of the counting. In other words you would count one then breath and count two then breath out. This would go back and forth like that until you reached one hundred.
- Tell yourself that heaviness is moving up your feet, ankles, calves etc. until you reach the scalp. This is, of course, moving from your feet up and involving actually wanting and willing for the heaviness to occur.
- Tell yourself that weights are being tied to your ankles, waist, neck, and wrists. This too is to be willed to happen.
- Tell yourself a new heaviness, twice as heavy as the last, is coming down your scalp, face, head, neck etc. until you reach the feet. Of course, yet again, this is to be willed.
- Tell yourself that bags of sand, twice as heavy as the weights, are being tied to your neck, wrists, waist, and ankles. This too is to be willed.
- Imagine a chalkboard with the alphabet written across the top and the numbers zero through to nine written along the bottom. Now go through and erase each letter then each number while thinking repeatedly, “Knowledge doesn’t matter right now. It does when I’m dreaming and when I’m fully awake. However, all that matters right now is my goal to…” In this case you would say that your goal is to have long, vivid, highly lucid, realistic lucid dreams with full control every night with complete recall of the dreams every morning upon awakening.
- Imagine a skywriter plane flying overhead, writing out your name. Now, as it flies off, imagine your name blowing away in the wind. Now think to your self, “My identity doesn’t matter right now. It will matter when I’m dreaming and when I’m fully awake. However, all that matters right now is my goal to…”Yet again, in this case you would say your goal is to have long, vivid, highly lucid, realistic lucid dreams with full control every night with complete recall of the dreams every morning upon awakening.
- Say that you will count from one to five and when you reach five your relaxation will double. Now count to five.
- Say that you will count to from one to ten and when you reach ten your relaxation will triple. Now count to ten.
- Say that you will count from one to five and that with each count your relaxation will double. Count to five.
- Say that you will count from one to ten and with each count your relaxation will triple. Count to ten.
- Say, “From now on I will have at least one lucid dream a night that is long, vivid, realistic, under my complete control, and remembered upon awakening.”
- Say you will count from five down to one and when you do you will be, once again, fully aware. Count down to one.
I find that it takes a night without lucid dreams or a night without any dream recall at all before the suggestions start working. You should probably try to forget you planted the suggestions for them to take the full effect. If your frequency or quality of your lucid dreams go down then you should reinforce the suggestions by doing the procedure over again. You should probably still do reality checks throughout the day for a little extra help and keep a dream journal if you have a difficulty with dream recall. I believe that this is better than conventional methods because you’re working with the subconscious rather than against it as in other methods. Just a thought. I hope that everyone has some good luck with this technique.[/code]
hmm…ok mi think i’ll try that sometime…thanks 