Love life!

I just love life so much so i had to put it out there!

My biggest interests are life, fun, happiness, activites like climbing, exercise bowling , ice skating. Oh yeah and creation. I wonder how much we are capable of doing in our lives. I’ve learnt so much about the brain(frontal lobe, neocortex, neurons, emotions, chemical addictions etc…) the body, and the soul.

Imagine if we could create everything we want everyday. Why not.

I’m new here so please feel free to make me feel welcome, lol, and don’t be shy i don’t bite :wink:

Welcome! Yes life sure can be amazing sometimes :tongue:, and yes there is much to do out there!

Welcome to the forums :smile:

Sorry, but I disagree.

Life = Sadness. Sadness is the default state of all conscious, intelligent things.

The persuit for happiness is a constant one. It is a never-ending struggle, and once it is thought to be attained, it is fleeting and only momentary; a mirage. Ennui eventually settles in shortly after.

To be happy is to be as ignorant as youth, for a child knows not the inevitability of defeat, and for them, each day is an adventure. In the end, all we are is dust.

[right][i]"When, in some dreadful and ghastly dream, we reach the moment of greatest horror, it awakes us; thereby banishing all the hideous shapes that were born of the night. And life is a dream: when the moment of greatest horror compels us to break it off, the same thing happens.

'Tis better not to be."[/i][/right]

- Arthur Schopenhauer

Welcome to LD4all, happy!!! :grin:

That was deep.

I try not to focus on the sad things. For the most part my life is good. I’ve got a good family, good grades, a good set of friends, what more could I ask for? I’m content, and life is wonderful. There is so much out there, we just have to seek it.

To bask in sorrow and defeat is similarly ignorant. You have to go out and experience sorrow and suffering first hand, because the sorrow you make for yourself is nothing in comparison to others. So keep trekking, or start.

Happiness is more of a high point, sorrow is the low point. I prefer calm.

powerful quote WCH, I’d like to reply to it with another.

For those curious to read more, A link

I embrace much of the ideas you describe, I wholeheartedly agree all we are is dust, that moves and lives out its life on a small plannet, one of billions in a seemingly endless cosmos. In a few hundred thousand years, maybe nothing will remain of us at all, but it doesn’t matter. This is no reason we have to be miserable, we can be relieved, anything we do is now finite. This is a massive reason for us to live and enjoy what we have here to the best of our abilities, to help build a society where we live in harmony. Maybe it will all be destroyed, and maybe it all means nothing, but I would much rather cross that precipices into oblivion laughing at something stupid and insignificant than crying about something or moping over my existence which is equally insignificant in this view.

You don’t need to be ignorant of anything to laugh at something insignificant. There is no reason to feel anything at all for something insignificant. Except we control our existance for this perhaps fleeting moment, in many more ways than our physical situation. Look at people who are dying, Randy Pausch, Last Lecture who can somehow be happy. I’m not sure an objective meaning or purpose is required to achieve happiness or that such happiness would be empty.

I know what you’re getting at, but that kind of existance to me, sounds less like that of a human being, and more like that of say, a tree.

A tree cares not whether a bird chooses to nest on one of it’s branches, nor does it care if it’s fate is that of firewood. Like your sage, it just ‘goes with the flow’. A bleak affair, and terribly boring.

We are not trees. We are above those lower forms of life, because we are rational, wich is a gift, but a curse, because we are aware of our own suffering.

As intelligence rises, so does suffering. Madness comes as a way to avoid the memory of suffering.

Ever notice how the brain is located at the polar opposite end of the body when compared to the reproductive organs?

If you cut an ant in half, the lower half of the body will sting the head, and the head will bite the tail. Existance may bring about brief moments of happiness, but it is generally all negative in nature, It’s survival of the fittest, after all.

Through reproduction, The Will is effectively immortal and in turn cheats even death.

The only difference is that as intelligent, rational beings, we’re aware of, and are able to reject The Will, and cut ourselves from the tree of life. It would be the smartest thing to do.

Of course, I probably just have a serious chemical imbalance in my brain. In which case disregard everything I have said.

But since we’re using quotes, I’ll leave one, or two for fun:

Heinrich Heine, who spent the last eight years of his life paralyzed, partly blind and heavily sedated on his “mattress grave” (death bed), said:

Sleep is lovely, death is better still, not to have been born is of course the miracle.

first of all, i just love it when this sort of discussion springs up anywhere… I strongly believe that happiness is overrated…it could be said as some ephemeral phase or perhaps an outcome of an emotion and left at that…but laying so much stress upon happiness bugs me some of the times…

i agree to most of the things working class hero said here… n i liked some ideas put forth by green dragon…but i think its quite a tragedy that we resolve to follow one of the way without knowing what it really means…i’m talking about a lot of people out there who make it an utmost concern that they have to stay happy, put on their fake smile, spread happiness, even though their own emotions are suffocating them under their facade of useless lies…

Believe me i’m no overly pessimist who would come in between every moment of joy and demand a rational expression before giving my consent…every thing has its significance if only you put an attempt to understand it…i’m not sure if its just my experience but i’m so disturbed by some of my friends who believe that when you are happy then only you are living your life to the fullest…this general conviction, i believe, is mostly out of ignorance…

‘life is precious’-- is a belief which is often not considered wrong just because death is anyway something tragic…i dont say that i’ m totally against it, but why dont we think that its again ignorance or our lack of intellectual capacity that forbids us to think the other way, or perhaps beyond it…

another bitter tragedy is that if human life if truly believed as insignificant, then it doesn’t leave any scope other than death to fight the apparent cycle…i mean what should you live for if you think that its not worth anything…

fortunately or unfortunately there are many endearing (or delusional )things in life that make me forbid the idea of ‘suicide’…and that makes my further doubts on human life’s insignificance seem pointless…

in my case, i like to be happy, but i know that its transitory…i make the best of it, but i dont run from sadness, (or truth)…i like to know when i am depressed, not to feel it dimly but to accept it wholeheartedly… i am not really good at writing but i would like to tell you something funny about life…i’ve had times when i thought of it as totally insignificant…n thats the reason why i simply adore everything working class hero has put with conviction…i can sense that he’s taken rational opinions over life rather than obscure ‘life just sucks’ juvenile outrage…the thing is now that i’m out of most of my depression, i feel like i’m out of ideas…strange, right…i used to do so much of soul searching and critical thinking, that i had really push my mind to its limits…i’ve had so many questions so many doubts about life, which made me forsake so many things with absolutely no regrets…all i could conclude from my inner turmoil is that pain and suffering are a lot more sophisticated than they seem which makes them a lot more interesting while a soulful mind mocks at ‘happiness’ cause its simple and shallow…

That time has gone, n i wont say that i learnt something concrete that turned my whole life around…i just got brimmed with it…yes, i had another instinctive feeling that perhaps its time to leave the questions unanswered now, for they weren’t really meant to be solved…

-Rainer Maria Rilke, 1903
in Letters to a Young Poet

:welcome: Happy. I wish you many lucid dreams to come! :wiske:

that’s great that you love life. Let’s see how long it lasts. Like if you have reasons to be happy, what if those reasons get taken away from you suddenly? Then will you not be happy?

As I see it, the normal thing is to be on the swinging pendulum which swings back and forth from pleasure to pain. Pleasure in any form = happiness to people. Then the absence of that pleasure brings pain/unhappiness.

Then when you notice pain, you seek out pleasure. This whole swing is horrible. Even if you can find ways to stay with pleasure for longer amounts of time, it is inevitable that the swing to pain will come.

True happiness is getting off that swing. I don’t think that could even actually be called happiness. It is just being free from all that. Being totally Aware is beyond happiness and sadness. Now to learn to do this takes becoming a master of existence. It’s kinda hard to do this but worth the try.

Interesting point of view. I feel like we all go through periods of sadness and pain too. I feel like if a person take those aspects of the pain and try to form them into something good or take away something good (a new school of thought, something to avoid, a new understanding of yourself, ect. ect.) we can diminish the pain. Not to say we should ignore it, that will only make it worse in the long run. However, if we can find ways to be happy despite the pain, as a people we can ultimately lead more pleasant lives.

Sure, we are just bits and peices of dust. Our lives are but a miniscule part of this universe. I would rather live my dusty life happy than indifferent. I don’t have any particular reason to be happy right now- in fact I should be stressed- but I’ve learned how to channel that negative energy and turn it into something good.

Wow,
what a response guys. Great. I haven’t had the time to read it all but i’m glad you’re all getting involved.

Keep it real.

:ysim: Edited in from a double post:

Puffy cloud that’s such a cool name man. I like it!

Thank you :content:

This is so true. And that’s what I try to emulate. I don’t think that anyone can truly be blissfully ignorant once they have matured somewhat, but he/she can choose to still be carefree and imaginative like a child. That’s a big reason why I am so interested in dreams. What I mean is that dreams are so unconscious, and thus creative. They don’t have to make sense. Being lucid in one is like tapping the most expansive creative force possible.

But my pursuit of lucid dreaming has led me to regard reality in a different way as well. I’ve really learned the power of autosuggestion through lucid dreaming and I feel that I have much more control over my life as a result. I can choose to be childlike and happy if I want to be.

I prefer being sad, knowing the truth.

:yes:

That is your own prerogative, to be sure. You can be whatever you wish to be. But to say, “Life = sadness” is not quite accurate for many people out there. So yes, it is definitely a choice.

I wish I was happy. Yet, I remain sad.

And I never said I liked being sad, I said I want the truth. If the truth makes me sad, so be it.

Do animals commit suicide? Are they aware of their own suffering?

To be happy is to be unaware.

So, what is it that makes you sad? I’m sure everyone’s got similar reasons, but I’m also sure that everyone’s got specific reasons.

If you want to tell us, of course.

Where most people see happiness, I see a lie. I look at life, and I interpret it as sadness.

Happiness is as fleeting as a rainbow. Like I said, it’s merely an illusion. Every living thing works, and suffers for it, and as soon as you think you’ve reached it, it withers away.

If you read my previous posts, I explained exactly what I think.

To be happy, you have to either be dead, or unaware. There is no difference between the two.

Anybody who says they are happy simply does not know better. Because happiness isn’t something you can experience consistantly.

O rly? That’s not what you said earlier.

Denying bites = James not happy.

Haw, haw. Caw, caw, etc.