I’m not sure if I’ve mentioned it before here, but I suffer from disorganized schizophrenia. That dosent have any problems with becoming lucid or anything, but I’ve had people tell me that it is unsafe to lucid dream when one has schizophrenia. Does anybody know if that is true?
Well my sister has had sever Manicdepression and had to spend some time locked up. And one of her doctors told me that it is unsafe to do annything SC orintated whwn youn have a psychologic dissorder or borderline.
well my best friend has severe depression, and is turning schizophrenic, yet shes been lucid dreaming since she was 8 (dam her she can LD whevever she wants, even if its a day dream)
It’s not possible to be lucid in a day dream… after all, you’re still awake .
Anyway, on the orgional toipc… I honestly don’t know. Mainly because I’m not entirely sure disorganized schizophrenia is.
I don’t think it’s very safe to practice Lucid Dreaming when you have psychotic troubles, because of the possiblity of dissociation, the risk of confusing dream and reality and the risk of believing dream things to be real. Generally, schizophrenia is characterized by the dream intrusion into reality. So it seems a bit risky.
I don’t remember we have had returns of schizophrenic people about lucid dreaming on the forum. Moreover, lucid dreaming is very poorly known by psychiatrists, so that there are no reports about the possible problems. I’m sorry, but I don’t think we can be a lot of help to you.
It’s possible to not be lucid in a day dream?
I have also read warnings about schizophrenia and LD as being a possible dangerous combination. That is because, schizophrenia, being a dissociative disorder, already means that you might already being confusing reality! Practicing LD may just create more confusion.
İts dangerous. My mother had mental problems , we didnt talk much so i dont know if she was ld ing but i knew that she was having OOBE s . she thought every dream was real. she even tried suiciding because in her dream my brother died.
“The cracked mind may let in some light.” (R.D. Laing)
Hindi, do you know what kind of mental problems your mother had? Was it schizophrenia or another trouble?
doctors said that she had manic-depression but from what i saw , she was more of a paranoid schizophrenic .
Thank you very much for your help, Hindi.
Ambient.02, could you please describe your illness ?
Do you think that the wikipedia article :
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disorganized_schizophrenia
describes accurately what you experience ?
I don’t disagree with what the others have said concerning the potential dangers (I don’t know much about that), but from my mother’s experience - she is a psychoanalyst, not a psychatrist - the border between a psychatrical illness which can be treated only through medication, and a mental disorder which can be eased by understanding your subconscient, is sometimes quite thin.
It might help you to have some contact with your subconscient, while still being careful and knowing the possible dangers for you.
Michael
Since delusions and hallucinations aren’t the most prominent symptoms, I’d say it’s not too dangerous to LD. I think it would still be important to treat every dream as if it were waking reality. LDing could be a way to practice interacting with the world and ideas. I’d say it could be free therapy if approached the right way. Good luck:)
This would be a good question for Donny Darko.
I guess it all depends on what you actually want to achieve with LD… I guess it might be possible to use the dreams to not only investigate your subconcious, but to help you better understand the way your mind works differently from others. From that point of view LD could be seen as an almost therapeutic thing to do. As long as you’re careful and know the risks, why shouldn’t you be able to enjoy LD as much as anyone else?
I used to have schizophrenia, and I’d say that lucid dreaming is quite possibly a good thing for people suffering from different forms of psychosis, it can help you recognize whats real and what isn’t.
Finally an opinion from someone who has personal experience, and the message sounds very hopeful, especially since you don’t seem to have schizophrenia anymore!
Late reply, sorry, but that sort of describes the illness, but not in a very detailed way.
And I thank you all for the replies. I brought it up with my psychatrist, and according to him, its not what he suggets I keep up, but in my case it is reasonably safe to do. I’ll keep it up either way, theres not much else to do.