Lucid Dreams all my life... Please help me Understand

Quest for Lucidity
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Well… Funny I run into you guys… I think your chasing what I am running FAR away from. I am looking for ANYTHING to help. As with most of my situations, this is kinda unusual.

In a nut shell… Either I’m VERY mentally ill, or I am in the middle of something VERY confusing and profound. As far back as I can remember, I have had NO grasp on time, dates, color… basic things. I couldnt understand If the blue you saw was the same blue I saw… how would we know if we can only describe it as blue?!
HOWEVER, I have a 157 IQ and I could speak @ 7 mos, read (not memorize) @ 3 yrs… despite this vauge feeling of insanity and ailenation.

Then come the dreams. they have always been there. The earliest one I can remember, I was about 2. Then there was a very vivid one when I was about 5… and as I got older, they got more intense, and I could control what happened. I was so aware that I was dreaming, I could make rational decisions, such as to stop running, or drive off a bridge, because I knew it was a dream. also, I could control when I woke up. I often experience the “Witch riding my back”. This is when you are “awake”, but your body is still “sleep”. This happens all the time! I am “awake”, but I cant move. I try to scream, but it as if I am underwater, and it is suffocating and very extreme. I can VERY clearly see me room, my boyfriend, my windows… but not myself.

Still Reading?! LOL
Well… After a few profound life experience, and 2 trips to the psych ward, I realized I am NOT crazy. I am different, gifted… w/e… but not crazy. So… I call a Hypnotherapist/ Past Life regressionist. She let me ramble on for a while, then she cuts me off…
“When is your birthday?”
“March 20, 1984… 2:21pm”
She paused for a while, then she says…

“You need to make this journey alone. Your guide is within you.”
“You need to look into the signifigance of the vernal equinox in ancient cultures… Develope an understanding of your eternal self. You cant understand the signifigance of the past if you arent comfortable in the presesnt.”

ARGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH…new age hippie psycho-babble…

So… my quest, as all great ones, began on the internet. I guess my first step is to master tihs lucid dreaming to better understand whats going on when I “Sleep”… I am a SKEPTIC. But I must say this journey excites me a bit… and I would like to invite EVERYONE along. Any tips, ideas, suggestions, or some clarification as to WTF a BlueResonantMoneky is… I’m all for it…

After consideration, I have changed the topic title to, “Need help to better understand Lucid Dreaming” from “Lucid Dreams all my life… how to stop them? PLEASE Help” since at the end of the first post you state ‘I guess my first step is to master tihs lucid dreaming to better understand whats going on when I “Sleep”’ This seems to set the topic of the thread, but contradicts the previous title. :dragon:

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you do not have to be unaware while you sleep

and it sounds like you don’t have a choice, you are going to be aware

explore and do whatever you think would be good to do

if you want to get out of a dream or out of sleep paralysis focus on being inside your physical body and “go to sleep” rather than trying to WAKE UP just “go to sleep” and sleep paralysis will not really be an issue at all

sleep paralysis is very good for meditation actually if you focus on your body and your mind, and look at your eyelids, see what you see, and focus upon a particular area of the body

the top of the head if you want to experience higher dimensions and learn to leave the body, the heart to dissolve into “void” for deep peace and clarity

but you have to figure it out, just notice your body when its paralyzed instead of trying to move it be really relaxed and see what happens.

you don’t need to wake up at all

it can be really nice to just take a lucid walk and see where your landscape leads you without having any expectations, very peaceful and interesting

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Your “condition” really is a gift, it’s just that most mental health folks aren’t trained to deal with it. Eyelids is right, relax, enjoy and explore your sleep paralysis. I’ve had some of my most remarkable lucid dreams straight from SP. As you begin to see your condition as a gift, it will become one. Let us know how you’re doing.

dreamster

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Well, I must say that I never looked at things that way. Let me start off my reply, which will likely turn into a ramble :razz: , with the fact that you are NOT alone. There are others like you, generally spaced far and wide. The thing that interests me so much in your case is that LDs seem to come with the package… hmmm. If you’re wondering how I know there are others like you, then the reason is because i’m one of them! From an early age I began having incredibly vivid and long dreams. I was actually in them, taking part in them. The key difference was that I wasn’t actually Lucid, just a victim of my own imagination. While these hyperactive imaginination-fueled dreams were interesting, they soon faded away along with my decrease in imagination.

Unfortunately, instead of taking a natural LDing ability away with me from the process, I took nightmares. Hideous, uncontrollable, and all too real, they haunted me nightly. In the process, the nightmares changed me from an obnoxious young bully to the person i am today. The nightmares brought my entire life into question through metaphor. What was life? The answer I found wasn’t pretty. Whats my biggest fear? I’m even more terrified of it now that I know of it. What is death? I still have insomnia from that train of thought.

You need to learn the same lesson that i’ve learned, and been trying to take to heart (note I said trying, its incredibly difficult, and i’m still working at it.) You need to realize that its very unlikely you’re going to find someone else with the answers you need. What you will find is support from people like you, as we all go on the journey towards, basically, accepting reality. What you need to do is convince yourself of the fact that LDing, and life, and your intelligence, and your perception, etc., is a gift.

Thats actually the reason that, say, “looking towards the Vernal Equinox” works. If you believe the Vernal equinox has the answers to your problems, and you go looking for the answers, you will find them. I’ve spent the last year or slo of my life seeking truth and peace. I still havn’t found it, though its made me realize i’m slightly crazed (I tend to talk to myself, and am in love with what is literally my dreamgirl, who doesn’t exist.) The point i’m trying to make is, all truly gifted people come with some sort of eccentricity, I believe its what balances out the intelligence… or it could simply be the result of it. :razz:

So, whatever you do or decide to do, know that there are people out there like you, and we’re rooting for you. :smile:

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Lucky man. I’ve been trying to MILD with WBTB for months. I don’t really have any advice on how to stop LDing since I can’t seem to be able to start but I wouldn’t think it would be all that difficult.

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yo know, im exactly the same i always just put it down to i think to much and i couldnt talk at 7 mos or read at 3 but i could read moby dick at 5…
anyways i cant wait for your DJ to come out it sounds like it will be a very fun one to read. anways i wish i always had LDs

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skeptic about what, Dreamspell or LDing or SP?
if LDing: it has been proven and i don’t honestly see how anyone could be skeptic if they naturally had them. don’t try and stop them because #1 it is one of the funnest things you can ever do, and on top of that you are getting a good nights sleep :tongue: #2 you are NOT MENTAL (and if anything you have a mental PROficiency) but most likely your brain does something different (i.e. regularly questions reality) that brings about LDing.
if SP: well their are some things that can help… but they are all Prescription Meds. but i can tell you something, that it truly is ok, it is like when you realize that you are dreaming in a nightmare but still it does feel scary. Just think happy thoughts and realize that you are, more or less, still dreaming.
if Dreamspell: i don’t understand it either :tongue:

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How do you record in a DJ? I remember bits a peices of a dream last night…

I would like to add that I have not had a clear lucid dream in about 5 years. All my lucid moments have been nightmares from 2002 onward, with the most recent being a few weeks ago…??? Not sure why, but I will sya that I had a LOT of creative outlets when I had lucid dreams… Dancing, writing… ect. As I got older and more embittered, and sealed my outlets, I guess my “imagination” never ceased, it just kinda went with my emotions… another cavaet is that I am 23 y.o black female living in the middle of Baltimore City. this is not acceptable. I’ve been called a devil worshiper, hippie, oreo, ect… My own family thinks I’m just a genius slacker whos lazy… ARGHHH…
Thanks for letting me ramble!
so am I becoming a blogger now? OMG…

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I thought once, for a moment, I was truely going crazy. Worst feeling EVER. I think thinking to much about things, specially reality and life can give this overwhelming feeling. But knowing you’re not crazy and that there’s a reason for what’s happening helps a lot. :content:

Anyway, as you can see, lots of people would kill to have your gift! (not literally I hope) I think you just need practice at controlling your dreams and getting informed on the subect. ld4all is your greatest friend there. We all like to help and share experiences.

SP (what you called “Witch riding my back”) can be scary, but can also be very increadible. The trick is, I believe, to remember that you have control. You can change any scary thing just by wishing it, and believeing. Fighting it is not good! You have to relax and remember that SP isn’t bad for you (even if it may seem so)…

SP and LD’s can be great for creative purposes, once in SP I started to imagine a song, making it up in my head. And I could actually hear it, and it was beautiful!

And as far as a Dream Journal, just go to the Dream Journal section of the forum and create a new topic. I’d love to read about your dreams too.

Good luck on your journey. :grin:

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@Blue: first off, don’t be discouraged by people calling you names, likely they simply don’t understand. If its a problem, and you don’t think the people involved can be educated on the subject, then its best simply not the tel lthem about it.

As to nightmares, that makes perfect sense (to me), life is pretty trying, even if most people don’t ever even realize it! The nightmares are simply a natural “blow valve” for all the fears and angers you’re being loaded with in real life.

Also, black, white, orange, or purple, none of us here really give a shit. :smile: Don’t sweat it, it may seem liek a problem now, but with time and understanding friends, you cang et this taken care of. :razz:

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who knows… you may not even want it taken care of, once you start lucid dreaming you may end up liking it and, either way you go your going to get through it

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Cleggz… I am starting to anticipate the next LD… I guess I dont feel as freakish any6more… especially knowing there are people who WANT to have these. They have somehow lost their scariness now that I know I can control them…

Creal: The reason I mentioned my race is that my community, if you dont Praise and worship and pay your 10% every sunday, you are destined to burn in hell… And mental help?! Forget about it… Black people dont go crazy!! Not having any type of understanding except being called “Possessed” or “Over-active imagination”… Gets to be hard on a girl… I guess you gotta be there… .

LD update: I have read just about everything posted and tonight I am going to Try to control my LD… THe SP things still scares the shit outta me… one step at a time.

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welcome to the club Blue. Sounds like we’re in a similiar boat, but with their own unique differences of course. I’ve always thought that those born in 1984 tend to have a unique experience with the world, but then again I don’t often meet many people from 1984 so it’s hard to tell :tongue:

Well I used to get fed up with my dreams… having way to many in a single night, not feeling rested afterwards, sometimes in complete control, sometimes not, always incredibly vivid, the sense of being in contact with something deep and profound and then being ripped from it upon waking… the usual round about.

That’s when I got into a bad habbit of dream avoidance… various techniques worked for me, but generally a stream of tequila shots until late hours was sufficient… next thing I’d know I’d be laying in the floor in a pile of blankets and amazingly no dreams were had!! (I actually stumbled across this place in the middle of one of these nights)

needless to say, i’ve stopped that habit, well… mostly, but the point is simpley this… get used to it… adjust to it… make friends with whatever it is that makes us unique… don’t over think it, or over classify it, and just try to enjoy it…

realistically speaking, as long as our health stays well, and geo-political stances stay balanced we’re going to be here for at least another 40 years… so it’s best to just make the best of it, and enjoy the ride while it lasts…

(btw. welcome to ld4all, if ya haven’t noticed it’s a really great site, full of really great super cool people who are always available for genuine advice…hope to see ya around)

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here is a tip to go on.
you can control your mind (hopefully :tongue:). Your dreams are created by YOUR mind. if you can control your mind right now, than what makes any difference in your dreams.
you can control them, but forcing it to much can wake you up.

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yea. i think SP scares the crap out of eveyone but from what i understand the more it happens the less scary it gets.
and with your level of vividness you should be able to control them very easily and get much more on your 1st try then i bet most people get in their lives.
i look forward to reading your DJ

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I hate to feel like a forum groupie… but now I’m so excited about delving into a LD, I dont think Im going to have one! Or I’m scared that It will be a nightmare or something!
ARRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH
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ny suggestions (other than the obvious) to make for a juicy DJ tomorrow?

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b6 usually works although for me it took a couple of days, but then i had 3 solid dreams sometimes dairy will work. lol since u have to eat b4 taking b6 i used to eat cottage cheese b4 i took it. nightmare is just chance, same with not haveing one. usually i think that stuff will happen and if it does then its a good indicator that your dreaming. dont be afraid of HI and SP the WILD method works great, but im to afriad of SP since what happened last time. with dreams as vivid as your having you shouldnt have many problems it takes most people quite a long time til their first LD well, for me for my friend it took 1 day. so it would be normal to not have one for a while

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When I first saw the topic title, I thought “Oh, not another one of these…”

It seems like you’ve been convinced that lucid dreaming is a good thing. About the only advice I can offer (to keep it from turning into a nightmare) is to realize you control your dreams, and you have nothing to fear. I’m not sure how you wouldn’t have a lucid dream, seeing as how you’ve been having many since you were two.

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IQ of 157? What are you doing worrying about dreams!
157 is higher than Einstein! Find an alternate source for fuel, I don’t like paying $89/L dollars for fuel every week.

On Topic: the sleep paralysis thing is really scary, I chicken out everytime. So it must suck to get it regularly.

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LMAO… No way in hell I’m anywhere close to Einstein… I dont even have a job.
Funny you mentioned him though! I was just reading his Wikipedia tyring to better understand the Uncertanity Principle. I cant sleep so I smoke a bunch of #^$& and read about Quantum Physics. LOL… true story.

On topic:
I probably wont fall asleep untill the sun comes up. :sad:
I have weird sleep patterns. I have always been a nightowl. My mom always say I slept all day amd kicked her all night when she was preg. Given the opportunity, I go to sleep about 7am, got wake up around 430. Thats my perfect 9 hrs. Lately, Ive been waking up around 8am. Not sure why… I dont have anything to do. But I’m still staying up late.
Does anyone find a particular time of day to be more conducive to LD?
Or does anyone have a weird sleep pattern?