Making adjustments to myself in LD's and waking life effects

Quest for Lucidity General Lucidness
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[color=blue]I would like to get people’s input on this please and thank you :grin: I would like to use lucid dreaming as a stepping stone to accomplish some immediate goals I have in mind, as well as just using it to enjoy and get healthier sleep. Here’s what I’m talking about; and please bear with me as this may get a little long-winded :wink:

What I would like to do if/when I achieve full lucidity, is walk through a door that actually leads to my SC, or at least my dream world’s representation of my SC. I would goto a “control center” of sorts where there will be a large panel with many dials/levers/level controls on it. On the screen are aspects of myself at their current levels(not what I feel/think their current levels are; but their actual levels). Example, I would see the screen displaying my current levels of: determination, visualization, willpower, discipline, drive, confidence, fear, uncertainty, so on and so forth. What I want to do is make adjustments so that I crank up the “energy output” to all of the positive areas and bring the negative aspect way down. Now granted I don’t want to get rid of them completely because you need a certain amount of the negative to reaffirm the positive.

So after all that(thanks for reading :smile: ), would me doing something like that affect me in waking life? I mean it wouldn’t be a literal overnight change; but perhaps after making the adjustments, over the course of a month or two I’d feel myself gradually changing to the “specifications” I set for myself. Is that possible at all in your opinions? Anyone who might read this is probably much more experienced at LD-ing than I am and have probably already experienced some amazing things and used LD’s to accomplish some great things as well. If I may I’d like to tell another story. If you don’t wish to continue then please consider this the end and I’d love your feedback on everything above.

I signed up for this memory workshop by the name of The School of Phenomenal Memory. One of the main keys to completing this workshop is visualization(the reason for me bringing it up earlier in the post.) In the literature I have, it says to picture the images in 3D and color, and to manipulate them so that you can see them rotating in every direction, stretching out of proportion, etc. Based off of how it’s worded in the lessons, I take it to mean that you need hallucination-quality visualizations, which I don’t have and never really got to when I was doing the lessons. So would I be able to increase my visualization to that kind of level and still maintain control? Could I manifest an image of a fully grown golden retriever in the empty space in front of me and have it be so good that I’d almost want to think that it was real? I also want to increase drive, determination, and so on because I’m one of those types of people who always get gung-ho about starting something and then quit shortly afterwards and I’ve never been able to rid myself of that terrible habit, nor have I been able to improve that area of myself. Could I use LD as a tool for that?

Thank you for reading this. I did say that it could get long-winded, and so it was :content: I would really like to know what you all think and I look forward to reading responses.

Have a pleasant day!
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if you would purposefully modify your signature, your control panel would not include data referring to any of your status’ as negative or positive.

your panel-work would thus acquire a simplicity of its own.

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you have really thought this out pretty well, I like the idea, definitely possible and doable, and it gives you something to kind of push you forward as you go. I also very much like your idea of laying out your charactaristics in front of you, looking, analyzing, and “rearanging” them to favor your needs. The control panel is jsut your way of looking at it-how you visualize, which is fine, though I’d probaly not see it that way.

The best part about it is that It will give you direction and drive, and possibly the solution to things you want to change. Now, if you can become fully lucid, fantastic, you can work on it. Try a MILD where you already have a plan of what to do once you are lucid. Keep in mind that you don’t HAVE to be in a lucid dream for it, if you like meditation you could do the same thing. Just find a place you can sit and not be disturbed and seek it. While you’re at it you may want to ask your guardian spirit for help. You’d be suprised at the things they can do.

Can you conjure up images out of nothing? Sure you can. When I dream with my SP we tend to start in a “nothingness place” all white basically. She will then help me “pick the scene” we’ll decide where we want to go and what we want to do. I had asked her to guide me through my first lucid dream, show me how it all worked and thats what we did. Good luck, my best advice is: if you want to do all that, an SP will make it so much easier. Try and get in contact with him or her.

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Thanks Yanielle, I appreciate that kind of response and I’m glad that I’m not being looked at like I’m a loony. Granted I only know a little about lucid dreaming only because I haven’t had a true lucid dream of my own. I can realize I’m dreaming when I’m in one; but it only lasts a very short time as I always become lost in the “dream reality” again.

I actually did ask to see my Spirit Guide once. I was in a thrift shop of sorts and I realized I was dreaming. I asked the clerk if she was there and if I could talk to her. He pointed be to the corner of the store she was in and I went to her. She looked like a slightly middle-aged Latin woman of small stature from what I remember(of course I’m open to the possibility that she wasn’t even my real Spirit Guide; but just another dream character-nevertheless I was convinced it really was my SG at the time.) I remember wanting to ask her important questions about myself and the direction I’m heading in at this point in my life; but I became lost in the dream world before we had a chance to really talk. Of course I only realized that once I woke up :content:

Do you think you’d be willing to experiment with my idea at all? I’m not saying you need to improve areas like confidence or drive or anything like that; but perhaps you could pick something fun for yourself. Perhaps you could crank up your visualization to the point where you can visualize an object in your waking life that appears and looks as good as the real thing. I’m obviously very interested in accomplishing this action with LD-ing; and I’d love some practical feedback from someone who had done it or is willing to try it on my behalf just until I do it for myself.

Sorry for the long response again, I do that way too often :wink: Thanks again for your reply.

Have a great day!

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I think it would be easier do let a dream character do it for you!, like yanielle said. But it does not have to be your Spirit/Dream Guard. It could be a Technician, whose only aim in life is to watch these controls. Like “The Architect” in Matrix, you know. For Example:

You get into your Mind Laboratory (the room with a lot of computers, you know) and there is this genius technican. Just walk over to him and tell him “hey. I need more self-confidence. Can you do something bout this?” And he will. If he does, cause he’s an expert, it could be easier than if you do. It’s like these install wizards when installing a program. Imagine you had to copy all the files yourself! But when asking the expert, he can. He can also tell you which aspect is already high. “You’re very self-confident already!” - because reading of screens or even comprehension of numbers or values can be difficult to impossible in dreams.

What i mean is - it’s always easier to do things in a natual, intuitive way in dreams. And talking is very intuitive - working on some nobs, keyboards and switches isn’t, I think :smile:

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Yeah that is a better idea I think. Since making my original post I have yet to achieve a good enough level of lucidity to give this idea a shot; but I will remember to perhaps have my “tech” make the adjustments for me :smile: As you and Yanielle said, it will probably work better that way.

I will certainly make more posts on this as things happen when they happen. As I said I don’t expect it to be a literal “overnight” change; but perhaps over the course of a couple months or something. I guess I’ll found out for sure soon enough.

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Actually i’m trying this out for myself. I figured the scene out very well, and I am determinated that the next door i step through in an LD is the door to my “Subconcious-Control-Center”. Last LD unfortunately was too short with not enough control to do so.

I’ll post any results, and I’m very interested in yours 1^^

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I will most definitely post results when they occur :smile: I greatly look forward to those days.

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It might help you. It’s like a form of autosuggestion (I think?)
However, it won’t help you entirely.
And to turn your fears down… that may make your fears appear right there and you may have to make it so you don’t fear them anymore. (Like killing them, making something silly happen to them, pull a prank on them, throw dog manure at them, etc.) Because in order to defeat your fears, you have to face them…

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I really like your idea. It may work for you, but I know that I’ve been brought up being taught that nothing in life is free, large gain requires large effort, etc. I know right away that if I’d try something like that I’d fail, until I went on some epic quest or something. Perhaps instead you could go to a room that displayed the easiest way (in dream or otherwise) to fix/improve any given trait. That seems more useful.

Just my $0.02.

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moved into existing topic

I have a question, is it possible to reprogram yourself while having LD? I mean, something like entering subconciousness control room where you access a computer that changes your looks or behavior. If it is possible, how long would it take to see the changes?

(Sorry if bad forum)