I have been trying for 3 week now and havent had any LD yet…
my dream recall is getting realy good though… aprox. 2-3 dreams per night so that is great…
but i think here are some obstacles in my mind that keep me from having a LD…
first of all as i said on one forum i am kind of a control freek… well it is like i am trying to rationalise any situaton and not let it suprise me… i am afraid that if i have a LD i will think too much “how is this possible??”
next thing is that i have had nightmares all my life, when i was a kid i had like 3 of those repeating nightmares and it took me a while til i got rid of them… i still have “nightmares” like once a week, so in the morning i am thinking ok I cant wait to have a LD and practis all day, and before going to sleep i start thinking " what if i become lucid in a nightmare and cant controle it, what will scare the *** out of me tonight…" and things like that… i mean when i wake up from a nightmare i am ok and cant belive that i was so scared of nothing but in my dream…well wouldnt want to become too lucid there…
so i know that if i become lucid i will be able to stop the scary things but… it is still so not welcoming…
so i am here on this forum every day, reading abouit it, doing my RCs all day long, increasing my DR, doing MILD an auto suggestion and all, but i think my mind is blocking my LDs cause it is just scared…
Well it’s a dream so everything you can imagine is possible to happen there. Remember that in dream bounds are very wide and flexible, if there’s any. Just make sure to get so lucid as possible, there’s many ways to increase lucidicy (commands, lucid drinks, etc). You have to understand fact that in dream nothing around you really exists. This all is a mirage, you do can control. If mirage is a right word - in dreamworld you really see, feel, smack, smell everything. But it does not exists. A table in dream is not made of atoms, but of your imagination. Just be sure to know that you are dreaming, you are in world that is fully under your control. Everything is possible, because it’s a dream.
I’ve also been lucid in nightmare few times. I used lucidicy to wake up, or to stop scary things in there. Another thing: in “normal” nightmare you are scared. Going lucid can change it. Knowing that scary thing in nightmare don’t exists help a bit. But to fight monsters in nightmare you need to get really lucid, otherwise it won’t work. But with enough lucidicy level, you can or beat scary stuff or just go away. With poor lucidicy you can at least wake up - well, it ends LD, but at least you ran away for that all… but b e sure to do a RC after wake up ! It can be a FA.
Yes, you just don’t want to become lucid. Your mind have nothing to it, you are just afraid to get lucid. You don’t want to get lucid because of it. But LD’s can help you to beat nightmares, and make them not so scary. In fact, you can just fly away from scary stuff and do what you want to, have a great lucid dream.
chip9munk, I understand exactly where your coming from, you want to have a lucid dream to defeat your demons but your nervous that even if you become lucid and try to talk to them even though you have read that they will suddenly turn nice you don’t believe it and with good reason. I have the same problem with my monsters even when I’m not lucid but I remember that I have told myself not to run from them and to face them, I’ll ask then why they are in my dream or what they’re trying to tell me but they ignore me and “kill” me. I as well have trouble getting lucid. However, you need to be truly willing to face them and ready to. I.E you need to constantly tell your mind they can’t hurt you. And I know obviously if they scare you so much you are a very visual person like myself. But like I was attacked by some black hound dogs the other night and (still non-lucid or perhaps semi-lucid at best) I told them to stop and the lead one (of 3) spoke to me but I don’t recall what he said then he proceeded to take a bite at me but I told myself wait a minuite, they can’t hurt me and laughed when it bit me. I’m not going to feed you some crap about how it’s as simple as facing them because it’s not they don’t always work with you. but even if they are scary, for example, if one comes at you with a knife (still non-lucid if you) incubate your mind to the point where you can say, wait a minute, this knife won’t hurt then when they stab you, you can just laugh it off instead of getting killed. I hope that helps but if you gave me a documented example of one of your nightmares perhaps I could help better cater to your specific situation. But the key is to convince yourself it’s all fake, even if they attack you that it won’t hurt you and hopefully get to the mindset of “your not real and you or your dreamweapons can’t hurt me unless I believe they can.” I don’t know how much help I was again as I don’t know your fully specific situation but I hope that helps as we share a similar issuse on at least some level.
the problem is (also i guess my problem with getting lucid) that however stupid and unrealistic my dream sounds, and they get pretty weird belive me, i just never doubt anything while dreaming it… and in real life i am very criticall about things an always question them, but in my dreams…it is like, bring on all the weird, stupid, unreal, twisted crazy *** there is on this world and stick it in my brain and my reaction will be oh great what am i suposed to do now when a gigant human-head-lamp is chasing me in the underwater city that is on the waterless planet while i am trying to glue my head back to my body, like it is just a normal every day kind of a problem… (that was just an example of totaly illogical dream that seemed totally normal to me while dreaming)…
and the worst part is that most of my nightmares are really not scary at all… my worst nightmare that i had when i was a kid (that keept repeating) was about cartoon like smiling towels (that looked like that towel guy in southpark) that are flying around smiling at me, but friendly smiling… and when i woke up i would be totally freeked!!
if i get a LD nightmare i will definately remember what you said and thank you for your advice… but in my ND…
well i hope i will find some hiding place!
I agree with the argument that you are unconciously delaying success. Concider turning this into your own advantage: use the nightmare or maybe the feeling as dreamsign. Tell yourself next time you feel scared in a dream to realize the dreamstate.
My recommendation would be not to focus on necessarily getting lucid if your having a lot of trouble. Just keep telling yourself during the day whenever the thought pops up (and you’ll need to be confident for this to work) that your not going to run from your dreams and your going to realize they’re fake and if they attack you it won’t hurt. You can do this without becoming fully lucid. I know it’s still not the simplest thing in the world but it’s easier than trying to become fully lucid.
when i was just a kid i somehow, observing all those nightmares, came to the tech with wich i could wake myself up when i noticed i was in a nightmare, i started to blink my eyes and told my self that that would wake me up… and it did it worked every time, but i lost that posibility with time, so now after your question here i am thinking maybe i should aproach lucid dreaming like an observer more!
i think i shuld stop forcing myself to have DL NOW(!!!) and observe like you said what in my dreams i could use to become lucid… i will make it like a long time quest…
it just might work!
You could see it on an even longer timeline also as a way of life. Not that it takes up your life, but is a part of your life. And you have the rest of it to accomplish your goals.
