Is there some way to give orders to ourselves in our lucid dream so it can occur IRL? Things that only depends on ourselves?
Like: Stop Smoking, More Courage, or something like that?
If so, what can I do?
Is there some way to give orders to ourselves in our lucid dream so it can occur IRL? Things that only depends on ourselves?
Like: Stop Smoking, More Courage, or something like that?
If so, what can I do?
yeah you can do that but it wont actually work, it will be more of a placebo affect
There are ways to do it. I remember watching a program where someone was using Lucid Dreaming to lose weight.
You just contradicted yourself. It doesn’t matter whether it’s a placebo effect, if it gets results it works.
So, Did this person told how she/he did it?
Do you remember which show, which date, if possible? So I could search on E-mule?
No idea. I think it was around 2004 possibly earlier. It could have been terrestrial or sattelite channel, really can’t remember. I think it was a UK made program though.
But the general outline was that she was a comfort & binge eater during the night, which is what lead to her being so overweight. So what the person taught her to do was to become aware that she was dreaming and to incubate dreams as well.
What he wanted her to do was to cut out binging in waking life and eat as much as she liked in her dreams. The point was that the binge cravings would be satiated through the dreams, where she could eat as much as she liked as often as she liked and stopped going down to the fridge in the middle of the night.
From what I remember it did work and it did cure her binging, it probably helped with her weight as well although not to a major degree since the only healthy way to lose weight is to excersize.
But I would think you could use that for other things too, such as cutting down on smoking or possibly even stopping during waking hours altogether.
I don’t know how you would gain more courage or personality traits like that, but I would say it is still possible, courage is really all in the mind - so dreaming of doing all the things you wish you had and taking control of the situation in dreams may help you in life as well, increase your belief in yourself and the courage will come with it.
My LD’s certainly motivated me to excercise more. Maybe too much. That’s a good thing though.
See… It all depends on how much you believe it.
See, that’s only half-right. It will give a placebo affect, but if you believe the sugar pills will help you, then it’s mind-over-matter and they can help you. How the results work out really depends on how much the person trusts they will.
Through faith, nothing is impossible.
I don’t think that incubating an idea in an LD and having it transfer over to WL is a placebo at all. My understanding of a placebo effect is; you take what you think is a drug, but is not, your mind believes it is a drug and will work, and engineers your mind/body state accordingly. So really, a placebo is your mind engineering something out of nothing, simply because of belief. So while what we are talking about fits the description, it is actually exactly what we are aiming for, and thus making it actually work. By that logic, autosuggestion methods would be placebo too!
I agree with Daylight. It’s more like autosuggestion. Anyway, placebo, suggestion, hypnosis and autosuggestion work probably on the same basis (that’s what is teached in sophrology) but they can’t be confused.
It’s a good idea LadyBa. It’s a pity that so few people thought about this and tried it in LD’s. I don’t remember I’ve seen may accounts of this but it’s worthy to be tried.
Some one has an idea on how it could be practically performed?
When i started thinking about this, i thought that maybe I could just say it to myself while in a LD, just like what I do when we want to change something there…
But that approach seemed too simplistic for me…
Well, I don’t know, maybe it’s worth a shot.
LadyBa, I have been thinking about a similar approach. Let’s take the stop smoking example. I wouldn’t just say ‘I want to stop smoking’, it’s too simplistic indeed. But if, during LDs, you constantly say things like ‘I don’t like smoking’, ‘I don’t like the smell of sigarets’, ‘Smoking makes me sick’,… then after a while maybe you really don’t like smoking any more. Of course you could do this in waking life as well, but it would be more effective to do it in dreams because your subconsiousness is more receptive to these suggestions while dreaming. It is only an idea though, I did not try it out.