Here’s the thing. I was talking to my eight year old sister the other day. I asked her about the types of dreams she has, if she has many nightmares, and if she’s ever in a dream and realises she’s dreaming, because according to wikipedia, children are prone to dreams like that.
She basically said that she has dreams like that a lot, but she didn’t think they were special or anything. She told me that the previous night, she had a dream that a few boys in her class were throwing rocks at her in the school playground. She had woken up from it, and then decided that she would fall asleep again and have another dream where she would be holding her water gun and be able to shot them all with it. (she’s not disturbed or anything.) I was all like, “Are you serious? Do you know how many people would kill to be able to do that naturally?”
Now, I’m not asking you to rely on an eight year old for information about the minds ability to have an LD at will, however, does anyone know why children are able to have them quite easily? Is it because she wasn’t nescessarily trying to have an LD, it just sort of, happened?
For some reason it just takes children to not take as much effort as it takes adults to. Perhaps because the children don’t have as much stress as adults do.
It’s a doubt issue. Children are more absorbant and tend to try anything and everything out whether they hear it’s BS or not. That’s probably why they bear good fruit in LD’ing.
I find I have the most lucid dreams at the latter half of the night, when I am fairly well rested. Children between 6-9 need 10hrs sleep on average, where as an adult only needs about 7-8hrs.
It’s possible that people have the majority of LDs (or at least ones they remember) in the latter part of the night once they are relatively well rested, in which case children have more time to naturally become lucid.
I’m not sure about that,
but a child’s mind is far more absorbant than an adult. I mean, babies learn to speak a whole language at age 1 or something so it doesnt surprise me.
What i really dispise is when i attempt to tell my friends of the idea of lucid dreaming, and funny, everyone of them say “yeah i can control my dreams”
and i say “no, not like me, it’s totally different”
and then they get Pis*ed at me.
i think the optimal age range to learn LD is something between 13 and 15 , your brain has reached a certain state of structurization then but it isnt as formed as later …
IMHO they are simply not obstructed by the beliefs and mental barriers that adults have. They can really BELIEVE and that is an ability that most adults tend to forget.
I remember two pre-lucid dreams I had during my childhood:
The first one: I was at my grandma’s and was allowed to go outside on a small playground next to my grandma’s house. Once I got there I noticed, there were two new one-person seasaws, which were made from red plastic and kinda shaped like horses (possible I know those from real life, although I am sure that on this playground there never have those been)…
I sat on one of them and had some fun, until suddenly it started to make a violent screechy sound on every move… I found that very annoying so I stopped playing, but the sound continued. I looked at the seasaw and noticed that it was now moving somehow from itself… finding that quite strange, I stopped it by forcefully holding onto it… however the annoying screeching sound did go on… I thought “hey, how can that work?” but then woke up and noticed that the sound was in reality created by my nose (I had a terrible cold).
The other one I had much later, I was in kindergarten and a kind of green robot was introduced to me,which had a TV screen attached to it. it also made a lot of music. then I had a False Awakening, went to kindergarten again and there was again this robot, but this time the TV screen did not work properly. The kindergarten teacher (is this the right word?) asked me, if I want to be a music star. Then I said I already dreamed of all this and then I wondered, if this still could be a dream, but I dismissed the thought and I don’t know how the dream went on from that.
But I did not have lucid dreams. If I did have a Lucid Dream, this would have destroyed my believe, that you are in control of your dreams anyway. I had this believe back then, but I was not a natural lucid dreamer, it was a false believe, later I found out about that.
I suspect this is rather dependent on the health of a child’s psychology, as well. A child who is living in an environment where they have a lot of fear seem to me (I’m not a psychologist!) to be more likely to be unable to become lucid, and instead become “victims” of their dreams. A child who is relatively safe and content in the waking world probably feels like they have more control of their dream world as well.
Its very important question for me, because I talk a lot with my father about OOBE and lucid dreaming and he says, than with age I will lose my ld abilities and i will not remember my dreams at all… I really believe, than lding or greaming are abilities, than just must be trained, but sometimes i feel a little scared about my lds in the future…
I think this is the key part that sums it up right here; she told you that she was going to fall asleep and have a water gun to shoot with. There is no doubt, children don’t question things like adults to. As a result they have complete faith that they can LD, and thus are successful. Adults, on the other hand, tend to have various doubts, skepticisms, and prejudices and these tend to inhibit lucid dreaming. Thats why it typically take adults a while to learn to have LD’s; its easy to tell someone to believe they can have LD’s, but they won’t really start accepting/believing that until they have had a few.
I keep telling this to everyone, the thing is adults are highly skeptical and do not realize we all have those abilities, when a person understands this ultimate truth, he will be able, just like the girl to go into sleep and lucid dream simply out of will without any efforts, its really quite easy.
The thing is that children are much more in tact than adults with the true purpose to life, to the nature of the universe, they are much more connected to their SC and to inner spheres of life, therefore achieving something as simple as a LD is really a walk in the park for them.
Every man who is in touch with his SC and inner selves, as well as the inner realities and the nature of the universe will have no problem in achieving LD s as this is simply a matter of decision.
Ariel
Well, I recon it might be because children generally have a completley different perception of the world, both reality and dreams. I’ve talked to plenty of kids between 5-10yrs old and they just see the world so different. Maybe thats the reason as well why its so easy for them to lucid dream/dream more vivid in general. If no one ever told them, that a normal person “would kill to do that”, why would they ever doubt they could do it?
Well, I recon it might be because children generally have a completley different perception of the world, both reality and dreams. I’ve talked to plenty of kids between 5-10yrs old and they just see the world so different. Maybe thats the reason as well why its so easy for them to lucid dream/dream more vivid in general. If no one ever told them, that a normal person “would kill to do that”, why would they ever doubt they could do it?
When I was little, I would have nightmares all the time. Especially when I moved to maine (Age 5) And 8 times out of 10 I would realise it’s a dream (back then I didn’t know about LDing, I learned about this stuff when I was 12) So i would escape by closing my eyes really tight then when I would open them, I would be awake, in my room.
I had the same with that diffrence, than I just changed my dream scenario that way
by closing eyes
I can remember than I had to change my dream 4-5 times in one night
I think that its true that skepticsm hinders the ability to LD.
For example has anyone found their first few LDs were easiest?
The more problems you find out about, the more you start to doubt.
Cause after reading abit on this site, i had an LD that night without any methods.
They dont come half as easy as that nowadays xD
Yeah, that does make sense, the sceptism could be it… I think I read it somewhere on this page, most people dont inform themselves about LDing because it sounds so paradox…