"Shared dreaming" via physical connection.

Intro
I’ve read a bit on shared dreaming, which seems like a real nice idea. The only problem with such a thing is the difficulty required in such an endeavor. That, and not all people believe it’s possible.

In an attempt to figure out the ways in which such a thing could be possible we must consider OBEs and the like. A shared dream is a sort of “spiritual bond” between the two (more?) people in the dream, in which they experience the same dreamscape. So, an OBE must be required to reach the same metaphysical location of the dreamscape. This means one brain acts like the host server and the other like someone using a client to access the dreamscape on another brain. My theory has a more physical connection that ties theminds together.
The problem
Having a good guess as to what part of the brain “controls” dreams, thanks to another topic here, we can theorize that the dreamscape of a specific person’s brain exists on a metaphysical level within the brain, and is accessed by functions of the brain. If this is true, I believe shared dreaming could very well be possible, though not easily through current methods.
The theory
With knowledge of what part of the brain is required to access the dreamscape, I believe an implant placed at the back of the neck connected to the brain would allow communication between the brain and other brains. This would work much like a direct connection between two computers at first, connecting the two brains with something like an ethernet cable, allowing free communication between the two of them.
This does present a few issues, though…I will discuss them later.

I remember someone posting something about believeing it would be possible to “reprogram” your own brain, using similar verbal commands to the ones I’m sure we are all familiar with, such as “increase lucidity.” This further implies that the brain works similarly to a computer, which for this theory is necessary. The brain processes information in a very similar way as a computer, but at the same time it is different from any computer we have managed to create thusfar. This would make learning how to “program” a human being, or any other complex organism, a rather difficult task. This means until we have the knowledge of the basic programming of the mind all communication between connected brains will be fully open, which could lead to trauma caused by another mind interfering with yours.
Advantages to dreaming over internet protocol
To get off that, let’s go to the advantages to shard dreaming with this method. With this type of shared dreaming it would be possible for couples to experience things they never have before, a M/F couple could be F/F for a night, or one could sprout tentacles, maybe even have a few more people in it. This would also allow forms of entertainment, other than sexual. Let’s assume for this paragraph the coding of the mind is now as common knowledge as how to run a PC, You could have one centralized brain act as a server (It may actually be possible with a server, assuming the coding of the brain is constant) and other people connect to this brain through ip, by having knowledge of “mind-code” it would be possible for the host-mind to protect itself from any kind of trauma created by other people in the dreamscape, and maybe even limit their abilities. This means a single mind could create a world for other people to connect to during their dreams, in a relatively safe manner.
problems
Issues present with this theory

  1. Lack of willing guinea pigs :wink:
  2. Mind-code is still an unknown programming language that could very well differ from person to person.
  3. Mind-hackers are a subject I’d rather stay away from. ^^;
  4. I doubt any lab would do research like this in the near future.[/b]

Theres also one problem and i dont know if its not the biggest obstacle- relativity.
Dreams are different from computer created graphics/sounds etc or tv programs because they are highly relative.What one percieves/feels/hears/senses in dreams is very unique and personal- almost like fingerprints.
To see same thing other person would (propably) need to have… see here is a problem…same experience?same personality? same everything? Or maybe theres some limited number of things needed in common?I dont know but i guess that till we dont know a lot more about brain functions,more about what are dreams(for) we have to agree on guessing in this subject.
This is not only to have shared dreams with someone but actually mainly to be able to confirm it.Note how everyday happenings are differently described by different people.We might be having shared dreams each night with someone but not be able to confirm it surely enough because everything is “in the eye of the beholder”
Welcome to forum Lucius,good post btw:)

Thanks. ^^

About all the experiences in the dream being relative, that is true but in a share dream like this some functions would need to be filtered. Like in a game or on a forum, all the functions are always there, but it’s made so only admins can use certain ones.

In a shared dream done by physical connection, only one person is really “having” the dream, everyone else is just experiencing it. (I probably could have worded that better. ^^;) It would be similar to playing an MMO, the host-mind (admin) would create the dreamscape (like mapping in an mmo) and the visitors(like players) would just be enjoying the dreamscape the host has created.

My approach assumes the brain is very similar to a computer and that we can obtain knowledge of the mind’s coding.

I have reason to believe we can do plenty of things during lucidity, because it’s a lot like running a command prompt on a computer. The verbal commands given to achieve higher levels of lucidity, spawn objects, and have OBEs are like command lines in the prompt. Only by learning these would it be safe to try something like this.

Unprotected shared dreams by physical connection could cause serious harm to both (or all, depends on number of people) brains and possibly cause permanent brain damage. Not to mention the crossing of brain-waves during such an open state.

I’d actually like to see if I could make a list of common verbal commands, but that would require cooperation from othersin the community. I mean further than increasing lucidity and causing OBEs. I think it could be a very helpful resource for LDers everywhere.

I still have some doubts regarding mentioned relativity but dont have much of the atmosphere to put it in words,need to think it over.In general i agree that brain may work in a similar way to a computer but dreams are not screened.I mean- one experiences dreams through mind not through senses.One does not use eyes and their neural network to see.
I hope im able to post more bout it sometime this week.
Ps. With your interests, didnt you think about OOBE inducing thingo? Should be simplier and give lots of experience to use in experiment of yours.Such tries are done with some success by dr.Persinger (forgot what university,but it was somwhere in Canada).
Good luck:)

That’s interesting, is there any info about dr. persinger on the forum? Ah wait I will search…

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It was Laurentian University, incase you’re still wondering :smile: