It works because it raises confidence, uses both Visual/Mantra-based Subconscious Messaging that make it better than MILD IMO, and the Placebo Effect. Usually one of these three factors cause spontaneous LDs, and once you have your first, and your belief that you can actually Lucid Dream is there, you will experience a higher frequency. Forgetting it also prevents people from trying too hard and spoiling their results.
Yep, that seems reasonable. Actually, after I “charged” my sigil and burned it, I’ve been having vivid life-like dreams every night in which I have full control. I used to always hear stories of ,“WHOAH this method really works!” But I’ve actually had the best success with this. It’s as if I tricked my body into believing I WILL have vivid lucid dreams every night.
Fantastic that my method ended up helping you with your Lucid Dreams!
I’m currently experimenting with a variation I call WBTS. Wake up early in the morning, make a Sigil, charge it, and go back to bed. Because you created it in the Hypnopompic State when your SC is active, it would work immediately. When you wake up you will have already forgotten it.
why haven’t i done this yet?
later today, i swear i will
Good luck, TRJR.
*Genkai knows that TRJR can do it!
Don’t forget people, when burning/nuking to hell/otherwise mutilating your Sigil, take necessary safety measures.
*Genkai doesn’t enjoy being sued.
I MUST DO THIS AGAIN!!
I’m wondering, how well do people think it would work if I tried this in conjuction with WBTB?
If I make the sigil during the day and then when I wake up (I’ll be pretty much in gnosis anyway) I’ll charge it and then annihilate it and then go straight back to sleep.
mayhap I’ll try this at the weekend.
(sorry if someone mentioned this earlier, long post + bad real life memory!)
K, so i just made my sigil, it’s awesome.
I used food colouring and painted it on to rice paper, this is gonna be the tastiest Magik ever.
Looks good too, it almost seems a shame that I’m going to have to eat it and then forget it ever existed.
Maybe it needs more sugar? and some of those little silver balls?
wanders off to raid a bakery shop
I’ve heard of burning it. I’ve heard of nuking it. But eating it? Genius.
That’s great! Making Sigils cookies and eating them!
Let’s see MILD get this fun.
If this one doesn’t work i’m using fairy cakes and blue icing next.
I can just imagine someone walking in on me in a gnostic trance staring at a fairy cake, they’d think I was completely mental.
Hell, if I walked in and saw me doing that I’d think I was mental!
Heh. Great creativity there, burning_idle. I need to make some Sigil Cakes.
That works well but the eating it is good but if you spend so long designing it then preparing it for eating i think it would be very had to forget what it meant. I suggest being very creative very fast and writing quick on paper then lighting the paper on fire . Not only will you not remember it very well you will have some Fire to help you forget.
Fire = Distraction = forget & FUN
Well, the design itself you can squiggle on real quick, and eating a tasty cake is more fun than burning paper, and more child friendly.
Did you never read the back of match packets! Fire kills children!
Anyways I DILDed last night after eating up the sigil, That’s my fourth ever LD and the first one that I think I’ve geniunely brought about on purpose!
I cant believe this is working fir some people!
Why the heck wouldn’t it work for some people?
And I agree with idle. Fire does kill children.
Well I figured out the solution to my problem, and I found out by not trying to find out. So I found out I ended up charging the Sigil while drawing it, and putting it away (never to be looked at again) to save for charging it later (when I thought it wasn’t charged) Almost all the things came true…
Great that you’re having some success. Bjork would be proud, cue5c.
Bjork is proud, Genkai…but not because of me, but because she DECLARED INDEPENDENCE!
I havn’t fully got it yet.
Iv’e drawn a sigil, but everyone I drew was easy to remember.
Anyway, do I charge before or while the gnostic state, and by charging do you mean imagining the sigil or actualy while looking on the paper with the drawn sigil?
(I’d like to preface this by saying: If you hold these beliefs and enjoy them and their practices, good for you. But I have decided that they weren’t for me.) I’ve removed all references to Chaos Magick and Psi in this topic and every LD4all post I ever made. New understanding has discredited many of my former belief systems.
Chaos Magick is essentially a Satirical Parody Religion much like The Order of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and it is merely dressed up hypnosis.
Psionics is mostly a Conspiracy Theory and a notion that I wish to distance myself from as far as possible.
My wishful thinking has caused me to adopt these faulty beliefs, and now I’m living a much more lucid lifestyle without them.)
ANYWAY, Sigils still work if you ignore the “Magic” implications and take it for subliminal messaging on speed.
Exshade, just visualize it in your mind under hypnosis and then destroy it. Your SC will get the message.