# \[software\] Infinity

**URL:** <https://community.ld4all.com/t/software-infinity/30063>\
**Category:** Quest for Lucidity\
**Created:** [February 26, 2009, 8:11pm UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/software-infinity/30063 "2009-02-26T20:11:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bones](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@Bones](https://community.ld4all.com/u/Bones)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 7:07am UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/software-infinity/30063/41 "2009-06-26T07:07:15Z")

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I see, well these are great programs.  
I suggest them to everybody.  
The concept of Paradiso intrigues me immensely, but I haven’t the level of control needed in lucid dreams to do it yet.

Keep up the good work, you are really doing a positive thing for the dreaming community.

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**Author:** ![Mew151](https://community.ld4all.com/user_avatar/community.ld4all.com/mew151/32/1703_2.png) [@Mew151](https://community.ld4all.com/u/Mew151)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 7:18pm UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/software-infinity/30063/42 "2009-06-27T19:18:03Z")

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Just started today…

Love the music! :woo::grin:

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**Author:** ![Bones](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@Bones](https://community.ld4all.com/u/Bones)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 10:44pm UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/software-infinity/30063/43 "2009-06-28T22:44:08Z")

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> [@Mew151](#):
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> Just started today…
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> Love the music! :woo::grin:

Me too.  
Let There Be Light by Mike Oldfield is one of the songs in case anybody else was wondering.  
I had to look up what it was after I heard it.

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**Author:** ![Grix](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Grix](https://community.ld4all.com/u/Grix)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 5:49am UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/software-infinity/30063/44 "2009-07-02T05:49:59Z")

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Awesome, I had my first WILD using this program, on day 8. I just laid there and suddenly I got the feeling it was time to do an RC, I looked to the side to see if I could see my nose, but it was gone! Unfortunately I lost lucidity after about 1 minute

But it was weird, I though one had to pass SP when WILDing?

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**Author:** ![Jake\_Kobrin](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Jake\_Kobrin](https://community.ld4all.com/u/Jake_Kobrin)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 4:27pm UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/software-infinity/30063/45 "2009-07-02T16:27:53Z")

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> [@BenDrummin58](#):
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> Hehe there is nothing wrong with you. You are certainly not the first to experience this. My data that is posted on the first post was from a survey dating back to 2007. While it did include over 150 people, that is only but a fraction of the amount of people who have tried the program. I’ve recieved a few messages regarding slow starts and whatnot.
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> My advice to you is to take a small break from trying to incubate a lucid dream. You could continue on with the program, but the amount required to do so is just going to keep draining you. If you’re confident and feel like you want to keep going, by all means continue, but if you are feeling a little tired and frustrated, just forget about techniques and lucidity for a while and go on with your waking life. Come back a week or two later and try picking it up again with a fresh start. Stress can do a lot to a person and I have no doubt that lucid dreaming is one of those things affected by it.
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> When you’re trying to win a marathon and you get tired, you slow down and keep a steady pace to ensure endurance. Go too fast and you’ll wear yourself out and fall behind. Go too slow and you’ll forget your purpose. There’s my philosophical thought of the day, hah.

So on day four of my break I spontaneously had my first Lucid Dream. It’s interesting that I would have when in normal sleep but I can’t with these techniques and such… That wasn’t even a result of Autosuggestion.

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**Author:** ![LDLax](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/4af34b/32.png) [@LDLax](https://community.ld4all.com/u/LDLax)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/software-infinity/30063/46 "2009-07-02T23:49:29Z")

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Ive kind of given up on Infinity :sad:

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**Author:** ![Jake\_Kobrin](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Jake\_Kobrin](https://community.ld4all.com/u/Jake_Kobrin)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 6:07am UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/software-infinity/30063/47 "2009-07-07T06:07:59Z")

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Alright I wanted to de-bunk a certain myth…

> **SPOILER - Click to view**
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> That is the masturbation inhibits dream recall & lucidity myth. I have had two LDs in the past month… both times I masturbated before going to sleep. Look, this is really freaking embarrassing to write and a bit gross so I’m sorry but I just wanted to debunk that as it’s quite stupid.

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**Author:** ![BenDrummin58](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/c5a1d2/32.png) [@BenDrummin58](https://community.ld4all.com/u/BenDrummin58)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 9:41pm UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/software-infinity/30063/48 "2009-07-07T21:41:43Z")

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> [@LDLax](#):
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> Ive kind of given up on Infinity :sad:

That’s alright. This course isn’t for everybody, but who knows, maybe you’ll find yourself coming back to give it another go around. If not, it simply means you’ll find another way to become lucid.

Jake Korbin, myth or no myth, there are people out there who may believe that masturbation affects their recall (whether that be through coincidental occurrences or persuasion from others on the forums). Whether or not masturbation truly has an affect, I cannot say, for I’m no expert. With that in mind, I think we can both agree that masturbation forms some shady opinions. So, while I wrote Infinity, I made a decision to just take this unkown variable out of the equation entirely. If I kept it in, there may or may not be risk; however, if I took it out, there would be 0 risk no matter what.

Saying don’t whack off is purely just recommendation. If you feel confident in yourself and want to use the program while masturbating, that’s perfectly fine.

Hopefully that clears up some of the confusion as to why I mentioned it in the first place.

And, I don’t think it’s disgusting to admit, heh. It’s something that people do and has been coined as being a healthy activity for releasing tension. If it makes you happy, no reason to be embarassed :content: .

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**Author:** ![Maniac91](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Maniac91](https://community.ld4all.com/u/Maniac91)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 2:45pm UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/software-infinity/30063/49 "2009-07-31T14:45:58Z")

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i did day 1, had a dream… and wrote it down  
i did day 2, had a dream… wrote it down  
did day 3, but i couldn’t remember any of my dreams…  
should i start day 3 over again? or continue to day 4?  
:help:

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**Author:** ![BenDrummin58](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/c5a1d2/32.png) [@BenDrummin58](https://community.ld4all.com/u/BenDrummin58)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/software-infinity/30063/50 "2009-07-31T16:51:23Z")

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Continue on to Day 4 😄

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**Author:** ![Maniac91](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Maniac91](https://community.ld4all.com/u/Maniac91)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/software-infinity/30063/51 "2009-07-31T18:23:00Z")

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> [@BenDrummin58](#):
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> Continue on to Day 4 😄

ok thanks:)  
my dreams have become longer and more vivid after i started with this program  
i feel that im close to getting a lucid dream for the first time 😄  
great software

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**Author:** ![Low](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/ecae2f/32.png) [@Low](https://community.ld4all.com/u/Low)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2009, 10:15pm UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/software-infinity/30063/52 "2009-12-27T22:15:42Z")

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This might sound like a stupid question, but…  
Should i use the program in the morning? So at day 1, i make the rule for when to do reality checks, and then do it and then go to sleep?

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**Author:** ![BenDrummin58](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/c5a1d2/32.png) [@BenDrummin58](https://community.ld4all.com/u/BenDrummin58)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2009, 1:25am UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/software-infinity/30063/53 "2009-12-28T01:25:45Z")

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Yes. Reading everything in the morning will allow you to know what you’re supposed to do, and when you’re supposed to do it. Obviously, the tasks later on that require you to go to sleep could be read in the morning, but shouldn’t be carried out until the evening when you go to sleep.

Enjoy the program 😄

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**Author:** ![DR34M\_N0OB](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/bc8723/32.png) [@DR34M\_N0OB](https://community.ld4all.com/u/DR34M_N0OB)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2009, 1:38am UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/software-infinity/30063/54 "2009-12-28T01:38:57Z")

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where can I find the download for this?

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**Author:** ![Low](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/ecae2f/32.png) [@Low](https://community.ld4all.com/u/Low)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2009, 10:30pm UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/software-infinity/30063/55 "2009-12-28T22:30:08Z")

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Thanks Ben :happy:  
One more question:  
When using the mp3’s, should they be the same volume as when i listen to music, or just barely able to hear?

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**Author:** ![BenDrummin58](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/c5a1d2/32.png) [@BenDrummin58](https://community.ld4all.com/u/BenDrummin58)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/software-infinity/30063/56 "2009-12-29T03:51:55Z")

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> [@DR34M N0OB](#):
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> where can I find the download for this?

Try the first post. :ack:

> [@Low](#):
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> When using the mp3’s, should they be the same volume as when i listen to music, or just barely able to hear?

Whatever volume that you prefer. I personally have it a little louder than barely being able to hear it, so that I can still fall asleep. Just play around with different volumes and see what works out for you.

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**Author:** ![BenDrummin58](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/c5a1d2/32.png) [@BenDrummin58](https://community.ld4all.com/u/BenDrummin58)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/software-infinity/30063/57 "2010-04-26T18:22:05Z")

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Just a quick update. Somebody reported that the links weren’t working for the software. I’ve made sure they are now working so there shouldn’t be problems downloading them.

If you ever notice that you can’t download any of the software, please email me at [bendrummin58@hotmail.com](mailto:bendrummin58@hotmail.com) and let me know as soon as you can. I’ll try and get it back up and going within a day or so.

Thank you!

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**Author:** ![lbsf1](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/f08c70/32.png) [@lbsf1](https://community.ld4all.com/u/lbsf1)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/software-infinity/30063/58 "2010-04-26T20:01:40Z")

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Just listened to the beggining of the lucid curse mp3. I’m starting the course and after hearing the claim at the begining of the mp3 of a lucid dream every night. How do you reach this claim. Is it listen to it once and bang you ld everynight (I hope so but its probably unlikely) Or is it one of those that you have to listen to over and over again to make it work. Because I have tried some hypnosis downloads like that and they have never worked. Does anyone know anyways to make them work or answers about what this ld curse is like. n

THANKS!!!

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**Author:** ![tosxyChor](https://community.ld4all.com/user_avatar/community.ld4all.com/tosxychor/32/931_2.png) [@tosxyChor](https://community.ld4all.com/u/tosxyChor)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/software-infinity/30063/59 "2010-04-27T17:00:50Z")

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It’s the power of autosuggestion. What you believe it will happen, it will happen. Nothing more, nothing less. Of course, repeated uses of the audio file can make you more suggestible to its message.

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**Author:** ![Rhewin](https://community.ld4all.com/user_avatar/community.ld4all.com/rhewin/32/287_2.png) [@Rhewin](https://community.ld4all.com/u/Rhewin)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/software-infinity/30063/60 "2010-04-27T17:05:29Z")

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Just as an example, lbsf1, I listened to the curse last night and was able to break my dry spell. It’s just like the guy says, all you have to do is listen. He’s not doing anything creepy or spiritual or hypnotizing, he’s just giving your unconscious mind suggestions. You don’t even have to think, just listen. The mind is a weird thing; it’s so mysterious and yet it is so easy to give it suggestions.

Btw, thanks for including those files with The Goods, BenDrummin.

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