Somewhat confused over my actions in LDs

Quest for Lucidity
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I’m beginning to think that in dreams I have another personality entirely. It’s not too hard for me to imagine-- I’ve had times where people have woken me up, had me fix something (computers mainly) or answer a question, gone back to sleep, and remembered none of it in the morning.

Basically, what happens is, even though I know I’m dreaming, and the way dreams ‘feel’ definitely changes, it still seems more like I, as in my thinking mind that types this now, is watching and even feeling somewhat the actions of I, as in the dream character am doing, and hear the same thoughts in my head, but do not have any real control.

For example, last night, I had some odd dream, eventually I realized I was in a lucid dream. The next thing I remember I’m running through a very gray room, and the dream is fading. Eventually I drop down and do some weird ground-hugging thing before it ends. Now, I’ve heard of all sorts of ways to increase lucidity and not lose control of dreams (lucid juice [Healthier than soda!], rubbing hands together, looking at the ground, etc.) and yet when I actually have lucid dreams my mind never thinks to try them, and as I stated it doesn’t feel like it’s really ‘Me’ in control, so even when I know it’s a dream, I don’t have much control over even my own actions, let alone the dream.

I realize this is kinda hard to put in words, so sorry for giving anyone a headache, but there has to be something I can do to improve this so that LDs are more like something I can do instead of just slightly cooler dreams.

Also, I’ve noticed that almost all of my LDs either I have a very fuzzy memory of, the memory of which only lasts a few seconds, or when I do have a clear memory, they tend to end quickly. This seems to be tied with a problem I have-- I’ve had three or four separate LDs where I wake up upstairs (where I’m sleeping, two of them were false awakenings, and those two were one after the other), but when I walk downstairs I tend to either have extremely fuzzy memories of it and wake up soon after, or wake up while walking down the stairs. I don’t quite feel comfortable with jumping out of windows, and I’d rather not do anything too crazy until I get more vivid dreams anyway, but I figure someone might have advice on that worth tossing out.

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I know what you are going through, i went through something many yaers ago when i first started out.

For me , and i am not saying that you have the same thing but an idea from others may help. It had to do with two things for me, recall and actually lucidity

I will start with recall.

Its what a lot of people tend to forget about with lucid dreaming, its important. The better your recall, the better you will remember your lucids when you have them that is a given, the better your recall th more likely you are to have a lucid as well because you will be more aware of whatyour dreams involve.

Work on your recall, maybe not 3-4 dreams a night, stick with one, but when you wake up really try and remember a lot about the dream, not just the events, but the ground, the sky,…was it sunny warm cold was there wind, what color was the the beautiful girls ear rings. If you remember a lot when you wake up you wil be surprised at how long your lucid dream actually are, where you think they last a minute they may last many you just have forgotten.

As for the lucid part, in my dreams i find a part of my self is conscious, but i am not fully lucid. this part of me is aware that the enviroment is a dream to some degree. This is not quite full lucidity for me. To solve these problems i had to re train the way my mind was working with lucidity, I started to preform RC inside the dream even when i knew it was a dream just to reinforce, i got used to the feeling of the dream as that, a dream. But most imporantly, i learned how to come into a lucid dream with an objective.

Start small, like say your objective in your next lucid is to find a tree and brush your hand against the bark. Just focus on doing this, and the next time you are conscious (not lucid) in adream, bend al your will to just doing this. It will help you learn how to take controll.

Other tricks are:

Use verbal comands (increase lucidity now)
preform RC
Recall
Practice
Objectives
Tactile sensations

Feel how you are when you are awake, get used to the feeling of consciousness, be aware of your awareness. Now imagine a dream, force your self lucid in this imagination and feel the same feeling of consciousness. Do this as much as you can for a day. Sleep, leave it for a day, then do it again. This will get you used to the feeling as well.

Forgive my rambleing im very tired, if you need more help let me know.

Its all about awareness, you have many more levels then you are prob know. When you understand this you will learn which level is lucidity and which is just being aware that it is adream.

Your will is stronger then you think, when you are just conscious you can push it hard and fast into lucidity, it gets eaiser and easier. Practice and focus.

Send me a PM let me know how you go in a week or 2.

Rich

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Thanks, I’ll try that. I normally remember one or two dreams a night when I’m trying, but I hadn’t thought of trying to remember all the various things around me.

I’ll try having an objective too-- normally my only goal was to remember my dreams and become lucid, maybe I should also put in STAY lucid for good measure >_>

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I have a very similar problem. I think what’s happening is that you’re not fully lucid. You might be lucid for a moment or two, but it fades which would explain why you aren’t abled to control yourself or remember to use any Lucidity Boosters. As for me, with the few I’ve had, I get too excited and my dream world becomes very unstable and dissolves away and I wake up. I think it just takes more practice.

Also, I know the exact effect you have about watching yourself. It’s like you’re watching a tv or a recording of your dreamself and you can tell(think) yourself to do things all you want but you just won’t do them. It’s sorta like when there is a scary movie on, and the killer is hiding in the shadows, and everyone watching the movie is shouting at the protagonist character, “Don’t go that way! The KILLER IS RIGHT THERE!! NOOOOO!!!” but it doesn’t matter because it’s a movie. Did that make any sense?