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Alright heres the lowdown, me and my asian friend wish to, for fun, and for the sake of being random and original, go on a spirit quest.
This is of course the mystical right of passage amongst many native american folk which the main purpose is to conact your spiritual self through “fasting of sorts” because you go out into the wilderness with no food or water until you “interact with nature”.
I believe in this and wish to benefit from this experience which of course will surely take place next summer.
This is the sort of thing I take quite seriously, and I would not recommend doing it for the sake of being “random and original”. If you are doing it for that reason nothing will happen, you will just be cold and hungry for awhile.
Medicine should be reserved for those who are on the medicine path.
Unless you have some sort of knowledge about what energies you are trying to awaken within yourself or what entities you are trying to contact, nothing will happen.
Medicine should be reserved for those on the medicine path.
Keep in mind also that most tribes did not just send people into the wilderness to fast. Most of the time they were on peyotl or tlapatl(datura). Most likely the spiritual part was not caused by the fasting in the wilderness(though those two things alone can certianly cause spiritual experience), but by the fact they had taken a sacramental plant. And this statement means more right here than anywhere else in this post;
Medicine should be reserved for those who are on the medicine path.
If you really want to do this, research shamanism for awhile. You must understand the cultural context, or else you will just be cold and tired and hungry, and nothing positive will come about. When a person from a native american society does(did) this, they have more knowledge of shamanism than you will ever have, because they live(lived) in that culture.
feel free to pm me if you would like to speak on the subject further, I am always happy to foster such discussion.
yeah, daylight good points. I know i said for the sake of being random and original, but that’s because it’s like a thing that me and a friend are doing. Like to say we did, but i also said i want to get closer to my spiritual side.
I know the terrain, and it’s not far from my house (like 15 minute walk). The only real danger i see is bears
Hmmm, if you know the terrain and it’s so close to your house then I don’t see it as likely that you’ll get the spiritual experience you desire. Don’t take my word for it because I’m just piecing this together from vague ideas in my mind and I have no real experience or research into this.
The way I see it, though, is that you must be out of your own element. Thus the lack of food and water. Therefore, the only way I see it working is if you take a walk into some remote location that you’ve never been to before with no immediate means of direct return to your own home. That way you’re out of your element and already experiencing new things. With the delerium that will come from a lack of water, I think the spiritual experience (should you achieve one) will be more likely in a place you don’t know.
Of course, what I’m suggesting there is very dangerous so I don’t advise it in any way. If you were going to take it absolutely seriously, I think you would go to somewhere that’s remote and uninhabited that you’ve never been to before. You’d also leave behind any means of contacting anybody, like a phone. That’s obviously risky because it begs the question, how do you get back. Personally, I think I’d suggest you go one at a time. Maybe set up a base camp and then one of you can stay behind with as much water as they like (so that one of you maintains the strength and clarity of mind to help the other shoul something go wrong). Then you each take a turn to walk a predetermined distance away from the camp in search of that spiritual experience. If they don’t return within a given amount of time, the one left at base-camp should head that way with plenty of water and some food, because something bad could’ve happened and the food and water may be required to regain strength.
Like I say, DO NOT take my word for it. Stick to your own plan if you believe it will work because I really know nothing about this sort of thing. If you believe it will work, I’m sure it will. I’m very much for that way of thinking.
i dont know the terrain perfectly, and besides, i don’t even think it matters.
you think the natives didnt know the land they had to go out into… i think not
I would go out further. I know that personally, if I were to preform this so close to home, after I got real real hungry I would end up going home to eat. It’s like a junkie trying to get clean and then relapsing. Something else takes over and you just go for it, food or junk.
And this is advice that is good for the soul and potentially deadly to the body;
disregard all safety precautions. to truly have a spiritual experience, one must leave their attachments at the door. That includes your attachment to food, your friends, and your entire life on this plane. For a breakthrough experience you must be ready to leave your entire life, physical body, etc. behind forever.
and good luck man. i wish more kids these days would do something like this.
