I’m open to these ideas as all else has failed for me =/ -will try this tonight-
I’m a ‘E’ person, but all I’ve been using is the way to trick yourself as an ‘P’ person. I’d really like to give this a try! I’ll keep you guys up-dated!
Ok, so nothing happened… for the night at least. About a hour ago I was normally trying to fall asleep, only difference is the TV was on. So that kept a spark of awareness within me. As I drifted off… I remember my thoughts being more life-like images, they faded away. So I continued in bed when I feel this rocking motion (side to side) so I went along with this. As I concentrated on the motion… at a point I went all the way to the right and found myself ‘feeling’ facing the opposite way (impossible since I was not facing that way? xD). I tried going to the right all the way but something kept my head from moving… When I was in this state, I could not only hear my TV but other things as well. Not sure what they were… sounded like it was coming from the outside Since I couldn’t do anything else… I tried moving my hand (physical I guess) but had no response, actually more of a delayed response because it took a while for it to move
Anyone know what happened?
you were WILD-ing. In other words, you were falling asleep while you were still conscious. When you WILD, you get three types of HI :
Visual HH - you see pictures and images floating by
Acoustic HH - you hear weird noises
Semantic HH - you get weird feelings.
All that happens normally when you sleep, except you lose consciousness. When you say you had a delayed response, it was because as you sleep, at one point your brain shuts down all connections to your body. This is called SP. You were either ‘reaching’ that part, or you were experiencing SP, and then you had awoken.
In other words, you were very close to an dream where you would have been lucid from the start. Why don’t you try WILD-ing purposely, seeing as you got good results from the beginning. I’m glad to see you were relaxed and ‘you went along with it’. Go to the main website and read the information on WILD. You can also search for WILD topics on the forum.
seems like the last one posted a long time ago…
i hope it’s not forbidden to post in here and well, i had 5 As and 5 Bs, meaning for me, this seems to be the best result
I just discovered this topic. I’m slightly E (6 vs 4). Direct autosuggestion worked rather good for me, indirect too (I’ve sometimes used the “find your hand” method). I’ve some questions:
- how did you build the E autosuggestion sentences? I don’t understand exactly the principle. Please could you explain it precisely?
- I would like to translate your post on the french forum cause it’s linked towards it in Sandra’s MILD FAQ. Please may I? You’ll be credited of the article, of course.
I am a P (9-1), and I have been using the ones you have said (most of the time), it has worked and I think there is something to this.
I am barely a P. I guess that explains a lot. I usually use P autosuggestion, and they work only about half as well as I wish I’ll have to try an E autosuggestion from time to time now.
A = 5
B = 5
Why will these things never work for me?! :´(
I’m a P by a small margin (6-4)
MILD works for me fairly well, but not for actually inducing dreams.That is to say it works, but not that often. Vi, perhaps you could link us to the original test to help some of the people (including me) who are on the fence find if they are more one way or anther. After all, a 10 question test leaves some considerable gaps.
I’m an E, and i got a lot of b’s.
Even just reading the suggested sentences make SO much more sense to me!
I’ll try it out!
i think this is the best result
and seems like i revived this thread
I knew it, i have 5 As and 5 Bs, so I’m neither E nor P…
I should have already known as I realized that some of the questions were not easy to answer for me and I wished to select a “C” ^^
EDIT: OMG, did not log in a lot of time… and from my signature I see I had more lucid dreams in the first two months of 2006 than I had this whole year 2007!!
Im an E and a P, Auto suggestion works fine for me, and i also, 90% of my LD’s were DILD s and i used DS. so i don’t rely on auto suggestion but this is still cool.
I haven’t been around in a while, but as the topic has been raised from the dead I thought I’d come clarify some things.
E and P stand for “emotional” and “physical,” but if you’re an E it doesn’t mean you’re more or less emotional than a P. The names are derived from something else.
If you’re a P, you take direct literal suggestions. Ps tend to take things literally, and talk more figuratively with metaphors and implied statements.
An E listens for the hidden meaning behind a statement, taking it not at face value but looking for what it “really” means, while they tend to speak more directly and literally.
The two types account for a lot of miscommunication. Take the broadest of examples: “Hey, wanna go grab lunch?” The P thinks “ooh, I’m hungry. Yes!” the E thinks “hmm, this person wants to spend time with me. They must like me!”
So for a P literal suggestions work because the P takes them literally. An E will take something like “I will lucid dream tonight” and interpret it perhaps as really meaning “I want to lucid dream tonight, I hope I do!” which isn’t a strong suggestion to them.
So, for an E, a statement like “I will remember my lucid dreams in the morning” has an implied fact: that they will have lucid dreams to remember. Meanwhile, a P might think “but what if I don’t have any?”
Some more implied suggestions (and visualize these too):
“I will be more lucid than usual tonight” (implying you are usually quite lucid!)
“I love when I have lucid dreams.” (not IF I have, WHEN I have.)
“After I become lucid, I will…”
“I will write down and remember my LDs in the morning”
“I can’t wait to tell X about the lucid dream I’ll have tonight”
I hope this helps clear things up a little! Also, I know some of you are on the fence with this one. Part of it is that it’s hard to concretely test these things with a multiple choice test! The original test is not online and I’m not sure how legal it would be for me to upload it. People who are truly in the middle are called “somnambulists” (yeah I know) and are open to both types of suggestions, so try one type one night and the other the next and see how many LDs you have.
Here’s an experiment in implied milding…
“I will become lucid, I will become lucid a second time, I will become lucid a third time, I will become lucid a fourth time, I will become lucid a fifth time…”
Because each number implies and reinforces the earlier ones. Much cooler than counting yourself to sleep!
Thank you Vi for your explanations. My question has been lost amidst bunches of new posts, so I ask it again: I wanted to translate this quite literaly on the french forum (and of course I’ll say that the original post was written by you). Please may I?
This is off-topic but I just started to study French this year in school!
Sorry I lost your question! Of course you may. Good luck to the French speaking dreamers!
Thank you again Vi. And good luck with your french lessons kT4all.
I’m equal. 5-5
So I could use both, right? I tried the normal suggestions, but no LD’s so far. (But I’ve only tried MILD for 3 days now) xD
Somehow I like the E suggestions more than the P ones. Maybe I should try P tonight