Summoning subconcious

Quest for Lucidity General Lucidness
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2 friends of mine pointed me to this forum because I didn’t believe anything they said. Dreamguards, summoning subconscious. All that crap. They call LD “hacking” your brain. I call bullshit. I had a couple lucid dreams I think. And it certainly wasn’t hacking my brain to do unnatural shit. It just happened. I got control. I went to a bar and drank some with friends. Was fun and tasty. End. Normal dream.

But they go all voodoo shit up in this. Summoning subconscious. Dreamguards. All of it crazy. And even crazier: Summoning subconscious and then asking what you worst fear is will make you go insane in the literal sense. That made me go all: “No way. Not true. Bullshit.”

And you guys know it.

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The whole point of risk taking is that u dont worry(too much).

Fully agreed. I don’t agree with your signature tho. Will also get you banned.

Also LDing is not for everyone. But just accept the fact that some people like it very much(and are excited every day about it).

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15:33 - Datastream |Iced|: I am glorious 15:33 - Oni: wii marely said you can go insane. 15:33 - Datastream |Iced|: yes 15:33 - Datastream |Iced|: which is bullshit 15:33 - Oni: Nope 15:33 - Datastream |Iced|: yes

They still don’t believe me. Why won’t they understand that a dream is a dream and that you can’t go insane from a dream. It’s just a dream.

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I agree that NDing can’t make u go insane. Nightmares most certainly can do-especially the nasty ones.

LDing diminishes the ammount of nightmares(transforming NMs into LDs)

EDIT: I congratulate you on not getting banned(seriously).

EDIT2: world-of-lucid-dreaming.com/ … aming.html

EDIT3: You went to a bar you say. How about flying?

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Hey is there something as involuntary LD? Because this one time I was walking the city and wanted to taste coffee and sat down at a porch and ordered. Then they hacked my arms off and it hurt. I just said there and was like “Why? And why does it hurt?” Then I woke up.

Edit: I’m mostly blind in a LD. Let alone I can move at all. I just sort of teleport to places. I know I’m somewhere else because I can hear it.

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I dunno. Next time just say “I am 100% safe.”

EDIT: Yea practice makes perfect.

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Yea I know I was safe. It was just that it did hurt. I just sat there confused with a bit of pain until I woke up. Weird. Oni (from chatlog) says he LD’s everyday and does crazy shit all the time. I think he uses WILD to LD.

What is the easiest way to LD anyway?

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Find your fav technique(there are 5 major techniques: MILD, VILD, WILD, HILD, CILD if Im correct).Read LD books and articles on your most working techs.

Also check in my sig Frequent Lucid Dreamers link: it will greatly boost your frequency.

Keep a DJ as well. And you can use WBTB technique.

EDIT: scroll over the words in initials and you will see the meaning of them.
Sorry for super-editing. Just not allowed to post double posts that’s all.
If you need help finding something, just ask me or on the appropriate forum.

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Some people just dont understand us lucid dreamers, because we cant really prove anything. which I dont get, since everyone lucid dreams, so I dont see why they shouldnt believe us.

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Here’s thousands of proofs that LDing (if done right) is extremely satisfing. Also proofs LD exists.

LaBerge, Stephen; Rheingold, Howard (1990). Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming.

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Well I kno that! Its just other people dont believe so…

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dod your friends mean communicating with there subconscious?

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I had three LD s and in two of them my subconscious stabbed me in one and chased me in another.And shut down my LD.And because of this I don’t wanna summon him.He’s like my enemy in LD s now…

Subconscious must be a DG that guides you in dream , helps you but I don’t know why my subconscious is so adversary to me :meh: