I do not know exactly this system, but I do believe that this H bomb possibility is even more negligible than black hole and other fears. Helium is a product of usual fusion processes and amount of the accelerated particles is probable quite small to start some kind of chain reaction.
Actually, it was just starting today… The first real high-energy collision is on the 21st of October. According to my sources anyway.
Geneva, anyone notice something about this? xD
Sorry, I had a sudden burst of FF nerd rage.
Any-who, I don’t think it will kill us all. If it does, okay, it does. Like HB said, if it does kill us all, you don’t want to sit around moping that you’ll die soon. We’ll all die sometime – when your life flashes before your eyes, make it worthwhile.
If it doesn’t kill us, then oh lookie, you have another one or more year[s] to live. Don’t spend those years panicking about the doomsday scare after this one, spend them living.
alas you have seen through my charade.
Bruno, you always crack me up
Eyelids: say what?
nope, the odds are actually higher than those of a stable black hole showing up. nuclear power plants are based on fission, which requires way less energy than fusion. in fact, there’s no such a thing as fusion power plant because we don’t have the technology to even deal with the ammount of energy released by industry-scale fusion.
the LHC is basically a big machine that produces a very tiny fusion reaction and tries to videotape it. there’s a twist: its cooling system is actually fuel for a much higher-scale fusion reaction, and on top of that, the power produced by the particular fusion done in the LHC is of a scale much, much higher than what we could ever dream for a fusion-based power plant. and, like i said before, there’s no known technology to deal with this kind of reaction: the self-sustained fission process we can produce today is of the “bomb” kind, never of the “power plant” kind.
your sources are right.
Right, it takes a while for it to be fully ready to go. Today just started the process.
If it does engulf the earth, none of us would even know. Doesn’t sound like a bad way to go right? I’d say it’s better than any other possible way, so I say, LET’S GO BLACK HOLE!
Well, now that my/everyones hype about doomsday is down-ish…I wonder what they learned from it? I’ve always liked science so I want to know more!
I usually don’t have time to come on the computer to research with starting highschool and all. And the homework…
to be sure:
Bruno you’ve been tearing an intellectual new one into everyone on this topic.
Btw, If we are going to die, it won’t happen until they do some actual collisions in the lhc. (on Oct. 21?)
Actually, they predict it could take around 50 months for the man made black hole to stablise, grow and then suck in the earth.
Carnun: so you say it could be out there, right now? how exciting!
Much talk about something that hasnt happened. I do not know how you find these sources, but there is no risk for the earth to be eaten. A black hole doesnt grow like this: (the left head is the hole, the right one earth), it takes time, and besides the holes are WAY too weak to eat the machine, so you can just on LHC. And thats it
Still I do not understand the reason why this He from the magnets should start the fusion process. Ok theoretically every light element since iron 56 can undergo fusion reaction but practically heavyer product than helium are rare even in star reactions (exept supernova).
In H-bomb the He is the product not a fuel.
↑ nope, He can also be used in fusion reactions.
Some calculation estimates that it might take 50 months to 50 years for a stabilized black hole to grow big enough to tear us up big time. Life would suck for a long time in other words.
We shouldn’t forget the hypothetical strangelets, though o_O
Imagine the earth as a pile of strange matter
Someone at school mentioned that she found it funny that some claimed a micro black hole to spend around 50 months to become big enough, as that’s about 4 years from now. Will we bring 2012 upon ourselves?
But I think I’ll just trust Hawking on this one.
I also metnioned that if I sayd except iron 56. But look at the table in your link and you will see that where is no reaction presented there He 4 is a reactant (fuel). It is alway a product. So making a nuclear bomb from He 4 is not the easiest thing
The case would be different if they use He 3 for cooling (physicists sometimes do that), but its much more expensive and I do not see the reason for that in this system.
I still exculde this H-bomb danger.
Carnun rereads his post… Nope Bruno, I did not say or suggest such things. As has already been posted the first collision is still to take place some time in mid October.
According to a newspaper in the town i live in, there were reports of 14-year olds coming to their school crying about the world going under.
Some panic from the “old” schoolstudents, right, or do they know about this?