# Too tired **URL:** \ **Category:** Quest for Lucidity\ **Created:** [November 19, 2006, 9:42pm UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/too-tired/23933 "2006-11-19T21:42:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Hotrootsoup](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/85f322/32.png) [@Hotrootsoup](https://community.ld4all.com/u/Hotrootsoup)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2006, 9:42pm UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/too-tired/23933/1 "2006-11-19T21:42:49Z")
Whenever i go to bed i try to do MILD but most of the time now im too tired and i just curl up and fall asleep. Any ideas? ---
**Author:** ![infinitycascade](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@infinitycascade](https://community.ld4all.com/u/infinitycascade)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2006, 9:59pm UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/too-tired/23933/2 "2006-11-19T21:59:56Z")
That only happens when I try WILD. I used to be able to get to the HH stage fairly easily. Now I just fall asleep. The only thing to suggest is to try and get more sleep… ---
**Author:** ![Duck](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a9adbd/32.png) [@Duck](https://community.ld4all.com/u/Duck)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2006, 10:03pm UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/too-tired/23933/3 "2006-11-19T22:03:54Z")
If i were you, i’d use the [Darxide](https://community.ld4all.com/t/willing-yourself-to-do-it/22117) method, a WILD or MILD when you wake up at night, and you still can sleep. ---
**Author:** ![Lucidity\_Master](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/a9adbd/32.png) [@Lucidity\_Master](https://community.ld4all.com/u/Lucidity_Master)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 12:29am UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/too-tired/23933/4 "2006-11-20T00:29:35Z")
The first thing I would do is try to get more sleep so that you are not as tired. However, if this is impossible or impractical then it comes down to a matter of will and concentration, you just have to stay focused on your intention even if you want to drift into random thoughts. Keep in mind that with MILD you fall asleep just like normal, only with a different thought in your head. DeadDuck - I’m not sure the darxide method would be any more effective simply because when Darxide is using it he still needs the intention at the beginning of the night. ---
**Author:** ![Gyth](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/67e7ee/32.png) [@Gyth](https://community.ld4all.com/u/Gyth)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 4:59am UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/too-tired/23933/5 "2006-11-20T04:59:20Z")
> [@Infinitycascade](#): > > [color=darkblue]That only happens when I try WILD. I used to be able to get to the HH stage fairly easily. Now I just fall asleep. The only thing to suggest is to try and get more sleep…[/color] You always get to the HH stage before you fall asleep, you just don’t notice it, that’s like some people saying they don’t dream, everyone dreams, some people just don’t remember it. Sorry for going off topic, HotRoot, my idea is to let them come to you, if you are too tired to do a WILD then try not to think about lucid dreams and eventually a DILD will come to you. That’s how I had my first, and alot of my others ---
**Author:** ![infinitycascade](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@infinitycascade](https://community.ld4all.com/u/infinitycascade)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 10:00am UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/too-tired/23933/6 "2006-11-20T10:00:58Z")
> [@](#): > > You always get to the HH stage before you fall asleep, you just don’t notice it, that’s like some people saying they don’t dream, everyone dreams, some people just don’t remember it. [color=darkblue]But you knew what I meant. Also- not everyone gets HH before they sleep…[/color] > [@](#): > > Sorry for going off topic, HotRoot, my idea is to let them come to you, if you are too tired to do a WILD then try not to think about lucid dreams and eventually a DILD will come to you. That’s how I had my first, and alot of my others [color=darkblue]In my experience, DILD’s don’t just come to you. Sometimes they do but you can’t count on this method to get a DILD. I suppose not practicing any techs but occasionally reading about LD and posting here can be enough for some people. I also agree with Lucidity\_Master. You shouldn’t get any more tired if you are trying MILD/DILD since all you are doing is falling asleep as normal after practicing techs during your waking hours and perhaps keeping a DJ. The problem with tiredness and loss of concentration should only really be a factor when practicing WILD or WBTB[/color] ---
**Author:** ![Gyth](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/67e7ee/32.png) [@Gyth](https://community.ld4all.com/u/Gyth)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 10:24am UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/too-tired/23933/7 "2006-11-20T10:24:33Z")
> [@](#): > > But you knew what I meant. Also- not everyone gets HH before they sleep… I meant the hypnagogic state in general not the hallucinations in it. > [@](#): > > I suppose not practicing any techs but occasionally reading about LD and posting here can be enough for some people. That’s enough for me, and since anybody reading what I said obviously does come here the next step would be to let them come to you, would it not? all but 2 of my LD’s have been DILD’s, a DILD also depends on the ND it’s self, that’s mainly what I meant by let them come to you, somethng in the dream causes you to realize you are dreaming, for instance you see somethng from another dream and think to yourself “That looks like somehing I saw in dream of mine… DUH! I am dreaming” ---
**Author:** ![infinitycascade](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@infinitycascade](https://community.ld4all.com/u/infinitycascade)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 2:04pm UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/too-tired/23933/8 "2006-11-20T14:04:16Z")
> [@](#): > > I meant the hypnagogic state in general not the hallucinations in it. [color=darkblue]But HH includes the hallucinations, hence why it is called hypnagogic hallucinations . You have to be aware to hallucinate. [/color] > [@](#): > > That’s enough for me, and since anybody reading what I said obviously does come here the next step would be to let them come to you, would it not? [color=darkblue]No. I think most people need to practice a little before they can expect to LD or at least come here regularly. Not everyone has LD’s just come to them. You may, but you do not represent everyone…[/color] > [@](#): > > all but 2 of my LD’s have been DILD’s, a DILD also depends on the ND it’s self, that’s mainly what I meant by let them come to you, somethng in the dream causes you to realize you are dreaming, for instance you see somethng from another dream and think to yourself “That looks like somehing I saw in dream of mine… DUH! I am dreaming” [color=darkblue]Not everyone realises they are dreaming so easily. For some, they must RC during the day to remember to question their dream like that. Most people just accept what they see in their dream, no matter how ludicrous.[/color] ---
**Author:** ![Lucidity\_Master](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/a9adbd/32.png) [@Lucidity\_Master](https://community.ld4all.com/u/Lucidity_Master)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 2:13pm UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/too-tired/23933/9 "2006-11-20T14:13:44Z")
Yeah it is odd the way most of us just accept that it is a dream no matter the situation. A while back I had a FA and had gone outside and my city was being overrun by dinosaurs. My rationalization: “Uh oh, the new zoo animals must have escaped” You can get better at recognizing dreams if you do RC’s frequently, but also it helps to keep a dream journal and categorize dream signs in it. After that you can be sure to perform an RC whenever you’re in a situation similar to a frequent dreamsign. ---
**Author:** ![infinitycascade](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@infinitycascade](https://community.ld4all.com/u/infinitycascade)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 2:33pm UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/too-tired/23933/10 "2006-11-20T14:33:12Z")
> [@](#): > > I had a FA and had gone outside and my city was being overrun by dinosaurs. My rationalization: “Uh oh, the new zoo animals must have escaped” [color=darkblue]:rofl: I rationalise too. It is very annoying! Some of my rationalisations were stupid at best![/color] > [@](#): > > You can get better at recognizing dreams if you do RC’s frequently, but also it helps to keep a dream journal and categorize dream signs in it. After that you can be sure to perform an RC whenever you’re in a situation similar to a frequent dreamsign. [color=darkblue]Yes, I miss a lot of DS’s because I never do RC’s during the day. I don’t really get the time but I do keep and DJ and try to identify the DS’s.[/color] ---
**Author:** ![Lucidity\_Master](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/a9adbd/32.png) [@Lucidity\_Master](https://community.ld4all.com/u/Lucidity_Master)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 3:04pm UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/too-tired/23933/11 "2006-11-20T15:04:17Z")
Why don’t you have time for RC’s? They only take about 15 seconds per one. ---
**Author:** ![Hotrootsoup](https://community.ld4all.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/85f322/32.png) [@Hotrootsoup](https://community.ld4all.com/u/Hotrootsoup)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 1:52am UTC](https://community.ld4all.com/t/too-tired/23933/12 "2006-12-06T01:52:57Z")
Umm not to be rude but EXCUSE ME people.More people have responded to “That only happens when I try WILD. I used to be able to get to the HH stage fairly easily. Now I just fall asleep. The only thing to suggest is to try and get more sleep…” Than they have to mine.