fflarex
January 28, 2005, 10:01pm
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I know I’ve read this somewhere, and back in the deep recesses of my mind I know it. I just can’t recall it and it’s really bugging me. So who coined the term ‘lucid dream’?
Xetrov
January 28, 2005, 10:17pm
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Wasnt that van Eeden (some dutch guy)?
Kava
January 28, 2005, 10:56pm
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No, Im sure it was…Van Halen.
According to LD4all.com (do any of you actually read it )
… in the bold letters in the pink cloud, and the top of this page:
ld4all.com / what / lucidity
it says:
Johan
January 30, 2005, 9:24am
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The article where Frederik Van Eeden coins it “lucid dreaming” can be read here (thank you Lucidity Institute).
The seventh type of dreams, which I call lucid dreams, seems to me the most interesting and worthy of the most careful observation and study. Of this type I experienced and wrote down 352 cases in the period between January 20, 1898, and December 26, 1912.
In these lucid dreams the reintegration of the psychic functions is so complete that the sleeper remembers day-life and his own condition, reaches a state of perfect awareness, and is able to direct his attention, and to attempt different acts of free volition. Yet the sleep, as I am able confidently to state, is undisturbed, deep and refreshing.
Then he gives some examples of his own LD’s. For example:
On Sept. 9, 1904, I dreamt that I stood at a table before a window. On the table were different objects. I was perfectly well aware that I was dreaming and I considered what sorts of experiments I could make. I began by trying to break glass, by beating it with a stone. I put a small tablet of glass on two stones and struck it with another stone. Yet it would not break. Then I took a fine claret-glass from the table and struck it with my fist, with all my might, at the same time reflecting how dangerous it would be to do this in waking life; yet the glass remained whole. But lo! when I looked at it again after some time, it was broken.
It broke all right, but a little too late, like an actor who misses his cue. This gave me a very curious impression of being in a fake-world, cleverly imitated, but with small failures. I took the broken glass and threw it out of the window, in order to observe whether I could hear the tinkling. I heard the noise all right and I even saw two dogs run away from it quite naturally. I thought what a good imitation this comedy-world was. Then I saw a decanter with claret and tasted it, and noted with perfect clearness of mind: “Well, we can also have voluntary impressions of taste in this dream-world; this has quite the taste of wine.”
Qu
(aka pasQuale)
January 30, 2005, 3:07pm
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It’s also available on LD4all main site…
what -> science -> click on article… or here: ld4all.com/what_lucid_paper.html
It WAS Frederik van Eden… He called it “Lucide Droom”, this is a Dutch Term… later translated into the english “Lucid Dream”
For real, dude. READ THE F***ING SITE! Sorry about that…
fflarex
February 6, 2005, 5:48am
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Did I do something to you? Because I don’t understand why you feel the need to post here a whole week after I asked the question just to swear at me…
Yeah it’s on the site, but I had thought the place I read it was EWLD and not here. I didn’t find it so I asked it where I knew it would be answered. Didn’t know that was crime…