Yeah no joke.
Well I’ll bet he’ll make his way back here some day, without conciously knowing why.
Or maybe he’s figured out how to slip over into the dream world, and leave his unconciousness in this one. If only we had a physical discription we might be able to identify him and put up posters.
Keep your dream eyes open!
well a few months later and still no report!
ohhh well
SO PEdro, where is the Report 
hmm?
has he posted ANY replies since that last one?
cos if he hasnt then. well? you decide for yourself
Pedro’s brain is definitely a done deal… 
If he doesnt post again, it should be a warning to all, that this is what people REALLY die in their sleep from =P
maybe he messed up and told his subcoincious to forget everything and doesnt even remember anything about lucid dreaming. or maybe even worse! maybe he really really screwed up and forgot EVERYTHING and he is just an empty body with no memory of anything and lives in some mental institute?
or maybe hes just lazy?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! This is a great thread lol! 
Enjoyed that lol.
SORRY GUYS! I’m here and my brain is in total working order…I think.
I came across a problem…it didn’t work lol. BUT I’m not gave up and I’m gonna try again. I thought I could do this the same way I create false memories but I’ve realized it’s a totally different thing. So I’m currently planning my new strategy…I think I can do it!
Anyway, yeah I’ve not messed anything up too much in my head!
good to hear 
sheesh. all that suspense for nothing. I’ll report here that my ventures with hypnosis have come out to absolutely nothing…
well heres my story about false memories:
Once i was in line at the movie theatre in real life. I didnt bother to get cash out of my car because i had my wallet in my pants, and i REMEMBERED that i had 20 bucks in my wallet, because i had a memory of pulling the wallet out and opening it and seeing 20$. Bear in mind that this memory was real and believable, and i truly remembered seeing toe 20$ in my wallet and i was sure it was still there.
Well, i go to pay for the movie, adn i open my wallet… and it’s empty. I am like “WTF”.
then, i start thinking back, and i realize that i dont remember where that supposed 20$ came from? how did i earn it? where did it come from?
and tehn i realized that i had NEVER had 20$ in my wallet in the first place. And suddenly i remembered that that scene (seeing 20$ in my wallet) was actually a scene from a dream.
And then i remembered the surrounding events of the dream, and i knew for a fact that it had been a dream.
So the point is, my mind had integrated and retrieved the dream momory of having 20$, and it did not distinguish where that memory had come from (dreams or reality). My real world conscious beleifs in that moment while standing in line was that i had 20$, exactly the same as if i had seen the 20$ in real life.
and i also have other similar experiences, though much less clear.
Like several times, for example, i might have sodas or some supply of objects. Well, i will use them up in a dream (like, for example, i will eat the last piece of pie in a dream.)
Well, later in real life, i will find myself with the memory and assumption that i used up the last supply (of whatever).
So i am all depressed, thinking to myself, “great im thirsty and i used up all the soda.”
But then i wil lopen the fridge and see that there is still some there.
And then i will realize that it was only in a dream that i used up the last of the soda or whatever. SOmetimes i dont even remember what happened in the dream, only that my memory is obviously false.
ANd i get a nice surprise because there is soda left!
(let me add that theis has only happened a few times. SO its not like i am crazy and go around with false memories and false expectations.
Its relatively rare and only with small details (like soda or money), never soemthing big like “my grandma dies in a dream” and then i find out shes alive.
Firstly, I think that it could be possible to influence your subconscious a bit in a lucid dream. I think it would work a lot better than self-suggestion, but not nearly as good as hypnosis.
Secondly, I don’t think that it would be possible to do something as extreme as creating false memories. And definitely not to fill in your blind spot with blackness - That’s something that’s an entirely automatic feature of your brain and it’s not even under the control of your subconscious. Maybe you could make it go black for the duration of the dream, or, even better, for the rest of your dreams that week! (someone should try this, it would be pretty impressive).
Thirdly, I think messing with your subconscious at all is a really bad idea. If you tell your subconscious what to do, where to go or whatever, then it is like imposing barriers and boundaries on something that should be able to roam free.
heh, that could make a plot for a quite cool film - A guy can’t remember anything about anything, except that he has a ridiculous urge to log onto the internet and check the messages in a forum he’s never heard of and reads some posts that he gradually realizes were made by him earlier, saying that he was going to try and wipe his memory via a lucid dream. Or something. It’s probably been done before by some other films except slightly differently.
Actually, some self-hypnosis is very similar to WILD.
Pedro says he already managed false memories. As for the blind spot, everything in your brain is under control of your subconcious. Only automatic reactions aren’t controlled by the brain, and even then, many of them are.
The blind spot doesn’t exist in dreams as the whole image is created by your brain directly. It would be maybe even harder to make your blind spot black in a dream than in real life! A simple proof of this is that many people cannot see their nose in dreams when they close one eye. This is used as a reality check.
What your subconcious does is totally “its” choice.
Certainly!
Sounds Risky. I wouldn’t risk losing Lucidity and screwing up things in my subconcious.
I don’t think that while trying to mess with your brain you would lose lucidity.
but dont you know that it was a false memory?
if you ar elucid, then right along with the memory of the false event, would be your knowledge that it was a false event. So unless you are not lucid (and dont know it is a dream) then how could you selectively tell your mind to remember the event but not the fact that you deliberately did it to create the memory.
of course this happens naturally as in my post with the money in the wallet - when your mind remembers the event but forgets the context in which it happened. Im just wondering how you could reliably, repeatedly forget the context.
That was discussed earlier on in the thread. Pedro gave up on convincing me but he’s still pretty sure he did it.
Is this the first time I’ve mentioned to you that MILD is the one where you give yourself suggestions…?
Maybe it was someone else…
well i’ve heard hypnosis relies on relaying suggestions directly to your subconscious, don’t you think that would be the same thing as telling your subconscious what to do in a dream? Hey, I could be wrong, because I got that from one of the Warp My Mind site’s induction files. By the way does anyone have any good links or suggestions about how to effectively get into hypnosis? I’ve tried but I guess my searching skills stink…
Yes, but hypnosis is still different in many ways. Firstly, the kind of hypnosis I’m talking about is the kind given to you from another person (rather than self-hypnosis). Generally, more time is spent convincing your subconscious to “listen” at the start of a hypnosis session, eg. “you will listen to the sound of my voice” or “you will do exactly as I say”. So it’s generally more effective. And part of it could be the placebo effect - so maybe if you were entirely convinced that it would work in a dream, then it might. Hey, that’s actually quite a good idea - before attempting anything like this, spend some time telling (or asking - politeness costs nothing, you know!) your subconscious that whatever you tell it in a dream, it will do. But most importantly - I get the feeling that mr.Warp My Mind.com doesn’t really know what he’s talking about, so never trust him 
Actually, the filling in of the blindspot has nothing to do with the subconscious - it’s an entirely automatic feature of the visual system. I’ve checked this briefly, and Hilgard’s introduction to psychology happens to agree with me on this one. On the other hand, it probably would be possible to make someone think their blind spot wasn’t being filled in - but that still wouldn’t be the genuine article. I mean, it’s possible for people under hypnosis to think that they’ve gone blind, so why not for them to think that their blind spot is missing?
And my idea for making a permanent blind spot in your dreams - I’ve just realized, if you could manage that it would be a great RC.
I actually registered just to post this, but I figured my two cents might be helpful.
The idea of creating false memories does not seem at all far fetched to me as I have already had a number of false memories due to dreams. I will be performing an action and it will conjure up a memory, and it is only upon closer inspection of the memory that all the inconsistencies with reality become apparent and I realise that it NEVER HAPPENED.
Whenever I realise that the memory is false it tends to disappear. I would imagine that this stems not so much from the noticing, but as from the idea that since it is false it is no longer worth remembering. If the knowledge that the memory is false can be maintained while the idea that it is not worth remembering gotten rid of then the creation of false memories should not be so tough.
After all, you remember your dreams, you just don’t think they are real, all you are doing is telling yourself that an existing memory of a dream happened in reality instead of in a dream.
Please pardom my comma splice, I don’t regularly contribute to anything.
Well, that woke me up pretty well, back to sleep!
Happy dreaming everyone.