well all techniques are welcome, He hasn’t fully explained it yet. I’m sure it’s easyier than it sounds.
I don’t think you need to explain it too much more. I think I get it now.
It should be more like a step-by-step tutorial
yeah, do step-by-step.
Sorry for deleting this post, I don’t want any confusion. Need more time 
I think you made it clear now, it sounds pretty good and it very logical right now, I posted a few days ago another method which in the end also makes one of the senses working without making the brain to proccess the data, but it depended on visualtion and memory, I think your method is better.
And by the way, it is WILD altough it causes a skip in a few of the phenomenons that happen during regular WILD, maybe because that the entire audio proccessing is already used for the method.
I should try this tonight.
Does it matter if I sleep in a room where there are no sounds at all ? And if my dreams are essentally visual and not auditive ?
Is this method like the counting method when starting to sleep ?
I don’t know a lot about mediation at all, but this technique sounds sorta like a kind of meditation to me, not reacting, or ‘vocalizing’ things you sense. This sounds like it actually could work for me, as i tend to over think when I’m trying to WILD and keep myself awake. Problem is it’s always quiet by the time i go to sleep anyway. 
I know what you’re talking about, I do this all the time when listening to songs and whatnot, you here it in your mind like when you read something, but you don’t think anything about it because it’s just a sound/word. But what I don’t understand is how this is going to help you have lucid dreams…
So, would it be better if you were listining to another language before going to sleep?
I’m not him, nor do I know if I fully comprehend this technique, but I think what he’s saying is that when you get rid of the meaning of the sounds you hear, your subconscious mind is basically shut out. This whole process of getting rid of the meaning is literally getting rid of your subconscious (or something similar). So, get rid of your subconscious and you’re left with your conscious state, giving you a WILD.
While that sounds like it would work, I still don’t think it’s as easy as greek claims it to be. To make yourself not pay attention to sounds would take lots of practice. In fact, wouldn’t it be like practicing to not comprehend AND to lucid dream? That’s twice the work 
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It’s definately worth a shot though. I personally don’t think I can manage, especially after I tried looking at that sentence he wrote without saying it in my head (lol that’s impossible for me).
Anybody willing to be a test rat? 
that made alot more sense than the first one
Sorry for deleting this post, need more time
Wow, interesting…
^^~ It seems like an interesting way to go lucid!
I guess it becomes just generally easier once you’ve gotten the hang of detaching the meaning from the sound-- I mean, he must have learned how sometime before he started using it to lucid, yeah?
I think it’s fairly possible…
Just hearing the sound. That’s it-- registering it’s existance and presence, but not trying to analyze the meaning or source of it…
It’s so engrained in our instincts to try and find meaning behind the things we notice, this would be difficult to learn (changing how we register things, I mean)…
But hey! It’s summer ^^~ There’s time!
I personally love the idea of learning a new sort of way of gaining more control over my perception. Since perception is really so key to lucid dreaming, learning to manipulate it in a new way would be good, yeah?
Also… I think, this would be counted as WILD, Greek!
WILD is really just staying conscious until you enter a dream-- This is just a very different way of doing this, yes?
I kind of wanted to re-phrase his tutorials (like I was while I was reading it, inwardly in my mind). It seems so simple, he just needs to phrase it correctly to convey the meaning effectively! ><;
It’s such a shame that a nice technique like this is being shot down-- I only really noticed one possible flaw… and no one has pointed it out yet O-o;;
(Sounds from outside of yourself might be blocked out as your body goes to sleep, and your mind detaches from the physical things it senses…Thus the numbing sensation of WILD?)
Anyways~ Thanks for posting this! I think since my house is quiet, I’ll try this with music… if I can detach meaning from songs I adore, I should be able to do it with sounds easily…~!
Right?
Happily yours,
~Talon
I find it interesting to read wich is after the editing out of the original posts.
From the responses I gather, wich was quite easy since everyone rewrote stuff.
I thining right now that, to not define all sounds may sound hard, but I think it’s the same as in meditation when we try to not mind our thoughts. To focus on something different. It may be hard when your not in a meditative state since our mind is so used to thinking in words. But focus on something else and it works, sound can serve as a focalpoint.
His name is Greek, what did you expect? 
But this is nonsence. Sure it’s good to train your ears and subconscious but THIS IS NOT GOIN TO HELP YOU LUCID DREAM.
I don’t know Ben, it’s fairly easy to tune stuff out. I didn’t see any of the original stuff he wrote, but I automatically completely doubt it lives up to 98%. Here’s my logic:
If it is listening to sounds, then you’ve already hit a big roadblock. People have different reactions over different times to different sounds. Sure it may have the same general effect with enough time, but tailoring a program that will work for everybody is near impossible because of personal differences.
Second, if it’s a technique of any kind, it has a learning curve. I don’t think there is any technique for lucid dreaming that you can learn completely by your first try.
But hey, I could be wrong, it’s happened before. I’d love nothing more then to see this be truth.
-Hatter
I have exactly the same pont of view as you …
Not all people perceive same sensations. The human brain is very complex.
Um… what exactly did he post?
Because I would liked to have read it, even if it’s confusing…
dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php ?t=39613&page=2
I understood this perfectly and did it successfully, three lucid dreams. I guess he wanted to make it more friendly, as I think I am the only one who actually understands his technique. Trust me it works