If i set my computer to wake me up with a very gentle sound at 6’o’clock, so i i doesn’t get shocked, and start moving, do you think it’ll work then?
That’s tricky. I’ve never gotten my alarm clock to wake me up gently before.
With gently i mean a low-frequent humm, that only lasts 3-4 seconds… Just enough to wake you up, and remember to play dead.
It might work, it might not, but it shouldn’t hurt to try. When I do this, it’s like I’m floating between awake and sleep… What I’d be worried about is that the sound might make you awaken fully. (or you might sleep right through it…) Maybe it’d work better if you used a recorded voice saying “do not move”, starting at a low volume and gradually ramped up over 4 repetitions or so…
It would be nice to build some device to make this work better, as the problem is “how can I awaken without moving?” instead of “how can I make myself realize I’m dreaming?”. I was thinking a restraining harness might work, but I doubt it because your body will still tense its muscles and try to move… Which will probably ruin that floatie state. Plus it’d be trouble if the house caught fire…
So can anyone think of a device that might help the “how can I awaken without moving” problem?
Well, i tried it this morning. At 6’o’clock my computer played a 5 second long sound, with 3 low-frequent ‘hummmms’. I woke up, and remembered to stay in bed, but the sound was too long… I didn’t think very logical at that time, so i went up to stop it when the 2nd and 3rd ‘hummm’ came. I’ll try it again next morning with another sound. Maybe i just need to get into a habit, so i doesn’t get excited…
^ I agree. With a little practice I think I can learn not to move some of the time and enhance my chances of getting back to sleep.
Seems like a great method. After reading this post today i had nap and when i woke up i did it. So thanks for bringing it out. Gotta make habit of it. 
Chaining with WILD is the only technique that has a 100% success rate for me. Thanks a lot for making me aware of it!
This method is even more powerful than I thought. Sometimes I can get back into a dream after being awake for a few seconds–even hearing things in real life.
I also find this to be the best method i have tried. its just like WILD except much easier. The only thing i find is that it has to be a very soft awakening where you are so drowsy that you could fall back asleep in a split second. so it works better for me in the middle of the night if i just wake up for some strange reason than it does at the normal time i would wake up. Also you have to have something to check that you are in a dream because lots of times i have done this. and got up out of my body and thought to myself “this cant be a dream, ive gotten up for real” and then woken up, its just so damn realistic. So i usually put my finger through my hand to check… just push it hard through the palm of your hand, and goes through and feels really cool 
Does this method require wearing adult diapers to bed in case you have to pee? 
Most times when I awaken at night it’s because I have to go to the bathroom so not moving, I’m sorry dunlar, “chaining” would be a difficult task for me. I really have to stop drinking so much iced tea… 
Can this work if you wake up from a normal dream, wanting to enter a lucid one, instead of exiting a lucid dream and back into another lucid?
I’m fully capable of waking up and continuing my dream, I can even shift around in bed and still continue where I left off. (Although I am new, and still kinda doubting the fact that there is someplace in this reality where I can do anything and everything hehe) What technique should I use after waking up from a dream, and about to continue it?
thanks :}
Whoa, I’ve read every post in this topic, and this method sounds very reliable! I’ve never had a LD before though 
I will try it this weekend, that would be so awesome if I can use this as my main method! The other ones seem a lot harder than this one.
Yes. The hard part is remembering to not move on awakening. If you can do that, you should be able to just wait for the dream to reform around you. Nothin’ fancy. Maybe think to yourself “I am Dreaming” once or twice, just so you don’t forget.
Most of us move as soon as we awaken just from habit, so it does take effort to re-train yourself.
Well, I’m new to lucid dreaming as a subject, so yes, it will take time for me to train myself and get used to staying still. But this method sounds soooo much better than others.
I kind of associate ‘waking up’ with opening your eyes lol, Man @.@ It’ll be a lot of training to not open my eyes when i wake up. It’s like trying not to blink if someone pretends to hit you
As already said, its far easier to do from a fading LD instead of an ND. When an LD fades, youre already awake with your eyes shut.
I attempted this earlier today, however after 9 hours of sleep already, my body wanted to get up and start the day
I’m going to try my hardest to do this, even though my back screams, “FLIP OVER, I’M HURTING!!!” at me when I wake up in the middle of the night.
I successfully used this tech last night, it’s friggen awesome and unlike other methods it is a lot more consistant in my opinion, granted that you can remember every time you awake which isn’t really any harder than how some of us remember to do a RC every time we wake up.
However I really doubt the whole “don’t move at all” thing as a requirement. I mean we naturally move our bodies when we wake up during the night all the time and usually don’t even remember it because we drift right back to sleep. I do agree the less movement the better and if you do achieve full consciousness(you shouldn’t at all really if you were just sleeping and do have this tech in mind) it does of course help to stay still, but as long as you stay completely relaxed, you should have no problem with turning over and allowing yourself to slip right back into a dream state.
Regards,
Zak
Sleeping posture.
I have noted that the way sleep and I have learned to operate is this.
I lie down in bed, fall asleep. Wake back up. Fall deeper. Wake back up. little NREM bursts of information and passive hypnagogia, generally speaking. There is never a direct transition into REM though.
After one of these wakings up I get tired of WILDing and start tossing and turning like crazy which:
A-ruins chances for conscious WILD
B-is bad for my posture.
If anyone wants very disciplined but passively easy lucidity, and is a light sleeper like I, this is what I would recommend.
Lie down on your back. Do not roll over at all! You can stretch and flex and such, but don’t roll over! That’s it.
If you find yourself wanting to roll over, that means you are awake what kind of sleep did you just come out of?
If you really feel that rolling over is necessary get up and walk around and pass a little bit of time, because it means you’re wide awake and have gotten lots of NREM sleep in.
then
go back and lie on your back again and fall asleep.
this is how i’m wired for it to work, eventually there being a point where i find myself having an OBE or lucid.
But it requires discipline to get up and be patient instead of rolling over and losing consciousness for the rest of the night.
But to me it’s all about:
chaining. this is what I’ve almost always done to have the best lucidity.
and
chaining is simply a refusal to move after you have woken up!
if you discipline yourself to have one WILD posture such as on the back, and discipline yourself that you would rather get up and get a drink of water and sit for a while than ever sleep in another posture, you should eventually find yourself consciously transitioning into all REM periods, and just consciously dozing in all NREM periods.
consequently it is substantially easier to refuse to move just in the mornings, but if you have been moving all night long the chaining posture may be painful, usually when I’m “REM surfing” and extending lucidity I find that my body is naturally in unhealthy positions from shifting around all night long.