let me fill you in. ive been working on dream recall for a few months now, and its been having its ups an downs. from what i read,napping is when people become lucid the most. so i was really tired today, and thought why not? even thought i should have worked on my dream recall more.
so when i lay down, i always try WILD, which usually doesnt suceed. bu i felt my body getting paralyzed and saw colors, but i got excited and snapped out of it. then i starting doing it again, and i remembered reading about moving your fingers to become lucid. at first i just THOUGHT to myself i was moving them, but then i actaully started moving them and before i knew it, i was in a dream. i was making out with a girl but it caught me off guard so i zoned out.
the weird thing is, i zoned out of the dream many times, but it felt like i could just re-enter if i tried. it felt like i was going in and out of a many dreams, that were in the same place, and i could change somethings. so basically, my question is
“could i just have been DREAMING about me being lucid. or could i actaually have been at a low level of lucidity?”
edit:/ i tried the light switch thing, but i zoned out before i could notice whether the RC worked, but i also remember flying around, and when i wanted to fly fast, i could hear the roaring wind around me, but i could see anything while i was flying, just like i couldnt see if the light turned on or not.
I do a short WBTB, then WILD, then I’m lucid. After a few minutes (or seconds) I wake up again. I’m however able to WILD (just by repeating “is this a dream?”) directly back into that very same dream.
That can happen many times during (I guess) an REM period. All the awakenings may not be real (FAs), but some of them are (RC).
So it is indeed possible to wake up (again - if that’s what you mean by “zone out”)and re-enter the same dream many times. (I’m guess that was what you were asking).
Still whether you were LUCID depends on one single thing: Did you ever actually realize that you really were in a dream? If so: congrats, you’ve had an LD.
It’s usual for beginners to doubt the realness of their first LD.
Something similar has happened to me yesterday.
I had this ld, i was questioning if i was dreaming of being lucid or it was a real Ld but i think it was a low ld, im starting to see that my last few ld finish with a FA.
The first time I got into Lucid dreaming I had a sort of fake lucid dream, where I was in a field and thought “I am in a lucid dream”, and tried to control, from 3’rd person, my body. The best I could do was haltingly shift about in the field.
I was dreaming that I was lucid, rather than being lucid while I was dreaming. A shame…
thanks for the reply’s, helped me out. my flaw is, since my dream recall is pretty shabby, im not sure if i remember, wether or not I KNEW i was in a dream. its a vicous cycle ill just try again tonight, by setting my alarm to wake up. and try the WBTB.
edit:/ and by “zoning out”, im not sure if i woke up, but it was just like Blackness, so i probably did
Hi piratejack !
Congrats for your first LD!
No doubt, it was a LD. You cannot dream that you are lucid. If you’re dreaming, and if you know it’s a dream, you ARE lucid.
My “fake” LD seemed like this-
Dreaming of experiencing an LD, without the realization that the experience is a dream. Like dreaming you are aware vs. actually being aware. I guess the barriers do tend to get a bit blurred when you are talking about low-level LD’s, which it very well could have been. It’s hard to tell what it was, but it just didn’t feel lucid.
Thank you White Mage Cid. I’m smart enough and I’ve about 100 LD’s up to now. It’s not enormous, but I think it’s sufficient to know what I’m talking about.
I said :
But by hovering the mouse over ULD, one can read :
I’ll give you an example so that you’ll better understand what is an ULD. It was during a week in which I had many LD’s. Thus I remembered unconsciously what I was able to do in them. Then in a normal dream, my brother and I were chased by a policeman. We were running near a cliff and I told to my brother: “We just have to jump into the sea”. I knew that the sea was 20 meters below, but I didn’t feel any danger, because I had taken the habit in my LD’s not to fear. We jumped into the sea. The strange thing was that my brother DC didn’t know that he would jump from 20 meters. Then he was very afraid and gave me names while falling. But this dream was not lucid. I didn’t know it was a dream. I just “acted like a lucid dreamer”, “having the behaviour of a lucid dreamer, not the consciousness”. It was an ULD.
So I’m sticking to what I’ve said.
Moreover, I don’t agree with that definition. If you aren’t even aware, it cannot be a lucid dream. Thus an “Unaware Lucid Dream” is an impossibility.
I’m not here to argue, so talk to Sureal, Xetrov or even Q to learn mroe about it. It is possible to have a lucid dream, but you don’t have the consciousness, regardless, you act as a lucid dreamer.
Thus, it’s not impossible, and please don’t argue cuz i’m not in the mood for another argue on my conscience.
something like that happened me recently, I was dreaming that I had 5 LDs and 1 FA, but it was all a dream, in the dream I recogniced it’s a dream by stupid things, it was nonsense. So, I didn’t knew it was a dream, but my dream me did it
An ULD is simply a dream in which you act as it you are lucid (maybe going as far to say, ‘I am lucid!’) - but at no point do you actually know that you are dreaming (which is the most important part).
‘Unaware Lucid Dream’ is actually a sub-type of ND (just like a nightmare, or a false awakening is).
It’s generally easy enough to know if you were lucid or not:
Just ask yourself, ‘Did I know I was dreaming?’
If the answer is ‘yes’, then you were lucid,
If the answer is ‘no’, then you werent’ lucid,
If the answer is, ‘I don’t know’, then you probably wasn’t (bad recall can sometimes make it hard to remember).
Experienced LD’ers can usually tell the difference easily enough (simply because they know what it feels like to be concious in a dream) but many newbies worry that their first LD was actually an ULD (I know I did when I started).
Thanks for explaining, I didn’t get all this dreaming about being lucid. Perhaps you can experience low lucidity (is this the expression?) and know it’s a dream but just for a short amount of time but you’re not lucid enough to take control or even mantain lucidity. This happens to me almost every night.
I had another of those dreams, but this time I think I realised it’s a dream for true.
As soon as I becomed lucid, all turned into a gray blue color, and I was floating in the floor, and cant move fast, so the first thing that I though was: “ok, I will change the scenario, I’ll close my eyes and when I open them, I will be at a desert”. And I still was in the same place (a little different but was the same) and with the same color, then I though of flying to move more fast, but instead I moved like there was lag (like in Counter Strike), and the got a FA.
ill just try again tonight, by setting my alarm to wake up. and try the WBTB.
