Im kinda scared to get an OBE...

Beyond Dreaming
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… wtf…

you have astral friends, but you are afraid of OBE?

Astral Projection is more or less OBE, I really don’t follow you at all.

Being afraid of dying from an OBE is like being afraid of dying from an LD though, and there isn’t really any answer, how we would know if someone ever died from an OBE, he wouldn’t tell us…

I think it’s highly unlikely

“Oh and one more question is it possible to die in an obe? Like deep sleep? Because I kinda want to do that…”

I’m not quite folowing you, you want to “die” in an OBE to make it take you into deep sleep, or you want to REALLY die from an OBE?

Or you forgot to include “don’t” ?

Weird nosies are common while separating though, it could have been part of you counting I guess.

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I wasnt counting at all…And my friend really isnt a human…and I heard that if there are higher creatures are walking about it attracts negative energy. thats what im worried about…>_o dont have to be mean…

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I’m not being mean, I’m sorry if you interprted it that way, I just do not understand at all what you are saying.

How do you have astral friends if you don’t astrally project?

Because atral projection = out of body experience more or less.

I don’t know what to tell you or what you want really, if higher creatures inhabited the general whereabouts of your house in the physical plane, I do not think there would be negative creatures present, becuase the higher creatures would drive them away.

If there is an abundance of left over energy from higher presences maybe, that could draw negatives there… but, there isn’t really anything to keep a “negative” from attacking you while you sleep or even throughout the day, according to some people. Robert Bruce says most people have negative entity attachments (and i don’t really believe this) and that they can gain new ones by projecting, but the difference being once you learn how to project you learn how to defend yourself and so then you can FINALLY cleanse yourself of any negative attachments you might have.

So, if you have astral friends that you think are real, why not ask them to protect you or something and ask them to help you have some OBEs?

I’m still not sure how you have them if you haven’t had an OBE yet, but… well… I think they could watch out for you if they exist.

I’m just not really understanding exactly what it is you are trying to ask… from my views, if evil spirits exist, t hen they will get to you whether you have OBEs or not, so at least you can fight them and grow stronger and cleanse yourself through OBE and energy work and trance work and such.

Yes new ones might come to you once they know you can OBE at will, and it might draw more attention to you, but at least you can finally take charge of them and ward them off for good.

if you are worried about them so much I guess you could read this stuff
astralpulse.com/guides/oobe/oobe.htm
astralpulse.com/guides/new/new.htm

astralpulse.com/articles/rob … les_31.htm
psychic countermeasures

astralpulse.com/articles/rob … cles_1.htm
astral beings

astralpulse.com/
all sorts of general info.

But keep in mind none of this stuff is proven, and his ideas are just as valid as anyone elses and I don’t personally think OBEing is different than LDing at all, though astral projection might be. I think evil spirits can attack you from normal dreams too, providing they exist.