mmm, yes! This would definitely cause a REM rebound.
the thing is you can do this 5-6 times without having REM, so it might not be needed to get up and meditate each time the eyes feel really heavy, although, this would be very good for helping you reach deep meditation.
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that woman’s podcast was somewhat useful,
i would simply speak without rehearsing, and without trying to sound happy and hold patterns in my voice, i don’t like how people market themselves in that manner… all businessn-y
“How ya doin Steve!?”
“Fantastic!”
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What she says about carrying consciousness into sleep is true, I suppose if one refuses to roll over and keeps the eyes open, and then gets up to meditate when they feel so inclined, it would help tremendously.
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if you deprive yourself of REM sleep you will have a surplus of it come in suddenly,
giving you a lot of dreaming.
the same is true of NREM, it also has a re-bound
people that have the misfortune of enjoying being drunk will understand this, their sleep is of a strange quality and eventually they have bizarre vivid dreams, but it isn’t worth it, being drunk is never worth, the poison and pain it brings the body and mind, and other people
it is a terrible poison unleashed upon our planet, that we are better off without.
lest one knows how to be responsible and not incur any physical health problems, though it is still a neuro-poison
it depends, if you are very good at being a light sleeper you don’t go into REM, at all, and if you get up when you are about to go into REM and meditate, you will have a REM rebound
That just doesn’t make no sense
If I stay awake with my eyes open, then I’m simply not asleep- So when I do fall asleep, I will have to go through the Light Sleep and Deep Sleep stages b4 REM. So I dnt see how this works
when you keep your eyes open, you are tired and falling asleep, so you do it like when you are “boy i am tired, time to go to bed” but instead of closing your eyes you just stare at something
they will start to close when you doze off, and you open them again, and this keeps happening for a long time
then you eventually get up and meditate and stretch, then do this again
you won’t be able to REM, but you will be able to do all the other stages
OR
your increased beta brainwaves (alertness/clarity) from having the eyes open will let yourself carry higher awareness into REM increaesing lucidity
its an exercise in learning how to sleep consciously, basically.
[i]By having the eyes open it serves as a reminder to always stay aware of the transition between sleep/awake, and in time this trains you to be proficient in WILD and conscious sleep in general, as well as deep periods of meditative stillness[/b]
MAINLY because when you keep your eyes open and look around the room you activate beta brainwaves that are not there if the eyes are closed.
closing the eyes immediately increases alpha while decreasing beta
and all this means is that awareness is higher when eyes are open when you are dreaming, your dream eyes are open, and you see the dream-scape when you are asleep, your dream eyes are CLOSED!
it can only work when you are so tired that if you keep your eyes open, they start to close on their own.
i tried to do it napping this morning but I was too aware, I couldn’t do it last night because I had too much caffeine in the evening.
i propose another idea, when coming out from a stage of dozing, when the eyes open themselves back up after briefly shutting, look left/right with the eyes real quick and spin them in circles, this might help increase awareness.
all my ideas are for LIGHT SLEEPERS
The highest method is to simply choose a fixed sleeping position, such as being on the back, and lying there, you will NOT enter REM until you roll over, so, if you refuse to ROLL OVER
You should either enter SP, or be so annoyed at really wanting to roll over that you get up and meditate for a while, and stretch your legs, doing a WBTB, then returning to the back and sleeping in NREM again
if a yogi with a beating stick would make me do this I would be much obliged, cranky, and thankful all at once, for I know it is my ultimate secret, and also i want calea Z and mugwort to try.
it has its effects at producing increased alertness, this morning i tried to keep my eyes open,
then they were closed for what seemed liked forever, and i woke and they were open again, and i was like “oh”
but I sure wasn’t near REM, though I saw my backyard briefly, and in good detail.
I think WBTB is crucial here, using any time that we are awake enough to roll over, to get up and do some sort of ritual, instead of going back to sleep.
But it seems best to just go to bed like normal, eyes closed on the back. Then do some sort of WBTB when we decide that we are tired of being on the back, and wish to roll over.
and the best way it seems to do this is to drink tons of water before bed so that, we have no choice but to get up instead of going back to sleep.
my first psychology teacher said she lucid dreamed by drinking tons of water and this would cause her to dream about going to the bathroom which goet her lucid
BUT
if you are NOT in REM and happen to be dreaming in NREM, it is very dangerous to use dream toilets!
take it from me, I was chaining many lucid dreams together, refusing to wake up, and decided to use a dream toilet once… geeze!
What I don’t got is the meaning of REM-Rebound xD
