Lack of confidence and shyness

er uh. . . good point. Although by eating you are also succumbing to your instincts. In fact, by seeking pleasure you are giving in to your instincts. Bummer, I guess you’re still human. Also, you said that the primary objective of life is to reproduce. Having sex with a condom is not reproduction (unless you get very unlucky). Therefore, having sex with a condom is not fullfulling your primary objective. You have cheated your humanity even more by experiencing the pleasure of sex without creating a loud, crying, screaming baby. In the end though, this really all comes down to opinion, so neither of us is truly correct.

You said it.

(Back to topic)

It was said earlier that people who aren’t shy are usually jerks. Clearly this was intended to cheer up some of the less outgoing members of the forum, but regardless, everyone slammed the author into the ground for it. Personally, I agree with him. Most of the guys I know who aren’t bound by limited self-confidence are complete jerks. There seems to be this inherent lack of sensibility that goes with being outgoing. I’m not saying this is the case in every situation, but the percentage is up there in the very high 90’s. I used to speculate when I was younger that being self-contained was a sign of intelligence, and to a large degree, I still stand by that.

Just my personal experience.

Atheist wrote,

Like what, masturbation?

Ha Ha Ha Ha! Thats a good one! This is one of your jokes right?

Once there was a fox who saw a tasty bunch of grapes hanging high above the path…aw, forget it. :tongue:

A joke? Nah, just a casual observation. I know a lot of guys who are generally quite shy, and I know a lot who aren’t. The more contained guys just seem to be better at working out problems, and can demonstrate more advanced academic skills. Probably a result of their condition, but it’s a pretty clear pattern. shrugs

You were right to joke. Try as I might, I can’t think of anything that I would consider to be a ‘worthwhile’ skill to take the place of mindless sex-hunting. So, go for it. Run about like animals in the night and pretend you’re a decent and caring guy, just to get as many girls as you can. Hey, why not? We’re all designed for it.

Athiest,

I think u make some good points but u also seem to stereotype. Being shy doesn’t mean anything and being outgoing also means very little. Each and every individual is different and displays different characteristics.

I myslef used to be shy but have learned to accept myself and love myself enabling me to love everyone and everything around me and now because i am outgoing i am still able to display all though characteristics i had when i was shy.

Everyon has to understand that keeping to yourself is not beneficial. By communicating with people, other animals and the environment u learn many things about life as well as yourself. By closing yourself of to these things and accepting that state is not healthy and not a way to continue your journey whichever way it might lead.

Nah, I don’t necessarily agree with any of that.

Outgoing people like to talk to others, while those that are shy generally prefer to deal with as few people as possible throughout the day. For me, I’d prefer not to have random people making small talk if I catch the bus, or do some shopping. I don’t think that means that I’m living a small and sorry lifestyle - I’m doing that for other reasons. :smile:

I attend very few social gatherings, and those that I do, I find myself hiding behind those people who I intimately know. Does this mean I’m missing out on the ‘spice’ of life? Of course not, it just means I don’t enjoy parties to the same degree other people might. I talk to people in less confronting ways (like right now). I still enjoy comparing my opinions to others, and it’s not like I don’t have a few close friends that I see a few times a week.

How is my ‘journey’ on the wrong path simply because I’m uncomfortable around people I don’t know? I don’t actually want a girlfriend, so what’s wrong with my introverted lifestyle?

No matter what you do in your life, if it makes you happy, then your life has meaning. I don’t think that shy people miss out on oppertunities, I think (personaly) that such people don’t want the oppertunities that a more outgoing person wants, they seem more content with living the quiter life, and if it gives them joy, then they shouldn’t be critisized.

Getting girls (or proper girlfriends, for that matter) are a great side-product of not being shy.

The reason I suggested the Double Your Dating program is because even though its main focus is to get a person to shape their presentation of their personality as attractive, it also eliminates shyness by BOOSTING self-confidence.

No phobia is incurable, actually if you seek help for it you’re destined to get rid of it. Sitting down and saying “my problem is too big to solve, it’s too serious, it’ll take too much effort” are nothing but wussy excuses (no pun intended Athiest).

Just because I’M not shy doesn’t mean that the only thing I do is have sex sex sex (not saying I don’t pass the chance when I want to :content:). Not being shy allows me to have FUN. Yes, I can talk to anyone at any time, make and tell jokes, have a laugh!

And also, by not being shy I can voice my opinion loud and clear in school, and later in life even possibly aquire a management role at work due to a “leader” attitude of life. Now just because I’m not shy doesn’t mean that I shout my mouth of everything and make people feel like shit, no: the truth couldn’t be more of the opposite.

I wasn’t always as straight-forward. I was shy myself when I was young, especially around the ladies since I wasn’t sure what they wanted. Over the years with practical experience and advice (dyd, double your dating program, had a big influence in my journey) and basically why I’m not shy anymore is because I’m self-aware, thus self-confident of my abilities and the need to improve myself is higher.

Living a life alone sounds odd, even if I enjoy solitude myself… but I would mentally suffocate if I didn’t have friends etc. to call upon in times of need or just to have a blast (or a necessary uplift, etc.).

(about that ebook, the guy asks 40$ which is far more than I give for a PRINTED book. Anyway I wouldn’t actually pay money for a thing like that. And don’t tell me about the free trial by giving your credit card number. I am NOT giving my credit card number to someone like that)
It’s like those mutliorgasmic sex books. It’s good to dload them and try them out, but I would never consider bying one. It just isn’t worth it. They’re 80-100 pages, and 90% of it is just gibberish: “after you try my method you will never have to worry again about <>” etc…

It’s great that you believe that, but really, it’s a matter of personal opinion.

Not only have I never said the problem was too big to fix, but I personally don’t even consider it a problem. I like being alone, and I’d appretiate people not trying to communicate with me everywhere I go. I must be the only person in the world who does want to be treated like a number, at the hand of cold, dead computers. :smile:

I don’t want a management position further in my career. I just want to sit in a cubicle and get my work done, either by myself or with a small team. This is more-or-less what I do at the moment, and I’m happy with it. (I use the term ‘happy’ VERY loosly these days).

Perhaps if I ever wanted to meet new people, attract the attention of a girl, or further my public relations skills, I’ll consider doing something about my condition. Can’t see it happening though.

Well it’s one thing if you want to be lonely, but make sure that it’s not fear thats holding you back. Fears can shape preference which can make choices seem like opinions rather than just coward actions. I can talk all day on forums and chat rooms, especially in games. Yet when I get outside with people it’s the complete opposite. It’s probaly fear at work unless it’s pity banter about some MTV video or a party which I could care less about. I wanted to get xbox live, and when i thought about voice chat it sorta scared me and then I thought “what I’am gonna say?!”. That was fear, I suspose it’s probaly fear due to lack of first hand exprience of comunicating with people using voice and being in front of them. When the fear is gone then you can make the right choice of wether you rather hang with people or stay home.

Part II