LDs in Discussions

i think when it come down to its just better to let it come to you in the begining. who knows maybe God chose each one of us for a reason call it probability or whatever…but ld came to me and it has made it so much better i normally just ask somone if they have ever been in a dream and suddenly bc aware that they were dreaming. what if you scare them off and they never lucid dream but what if they experience it and then come tell you and you get in a true discussion about it… it would be so much more exciting to me…after all that being said i need to read it again and apply to myself! lol it is just so hard knowing that you have gotten a hold of something that not many people know about…and you just wanna tell everyone about it

It’s funny. I brought it up to a group of drunk guys tonight. And exactly what you thought… yah that happened. I got looked at. Questioned? And ridiculed. They couldn’t even imagine, much less grab the waking life applications. I mean anyone should immediately pay attention when the figure “1/3 of your life!” comes into the discussion. But, as we all know… they don’t. Buttt heyyyyy I learned something about myself tonight. DON’T HANG OUT WITH DRUNK PEOPLE EVER AGAIN! I heard a story about someone shi***NG on a rag literally 5 times. Sometimes on a general scale I think people are retarded (You know if you don’t apply…)

For the longest time everything we had on Lucid Dreaming here in our big bookshop was stuck in a little corner of the New Age section, then eventually misplaced in Sexuality until ending up in Self-Help for a while and then finally getting a proper place in Psychology. although they’re still hard to find (basically on the floor. Nobody ever looks down there)
also EWLD isn’t in the collection. In fact there’s nothing good at all there anyway, I’ve read them all and learned nothing, then I came here and found more info in an hour than I’d read from four different books.

You can probably guess how people where I live react to all this.

That being said I did have one positive reaction, but that’s a close friend and he basically forgot all about it in a week

I definitely find that have to be very careful how I angle any such conversation.

People I know are intelligent and not to judging however there are plenty of new-agers and other pagans here in england and people’s minds immediately associate lucid dreaming with those religions.

So I like to talk about it as a scientific interest. I say that I’m interested in dream research before I say “lucid fun” I try to be as quick as possible to state how lucid dreaming it’s simply a key way of exploring sleep science and how it is being developed as a treatment for nightmares and depression.

In other words I effectively tell people that I’m interested in psychology. Which is not strictly true :cool:

I never told that to anyone, too.
Even if someone asks me what lucid dreaming is, or what is this site about, I say ‘‘nothing.’’

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im a member of a fraternity and i tell all our new members about it each year. i receive mixed responses. some people find it strange, most have no interest, but there are always a few that are really interested and i have 2 copies of EWLD that i loan out. i also refer people to this site. many people are successful as well in the LD endeavours.

nonetheless, there are people out there who are interested and it always makes me happy to find someone that is. i may get a few strange looks in between, but it doesnt bother me

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I don’t get weird looks as in “you’re sick” but still people around me seem to find LDing a weird, if not downright hilarious hobby to pick up. A question that comes up many times and that I never really got was: “but what if you hurt yourself or end up in a bad situation?” Apparently, people don’t take into account how knowing that it’s a dream actually makes it way more harmless than a dream in which you do believe you’re being chased by angry, pointy-toothed aliens.

Had fun reading all these.

anyway, if i ever get really rich, I’m going to make a TV add for Lucid dreaming, and it will tell you to do a reality check :smile:

Oh man, I remember when I told my mum and dad about it; we had a looong discussion if Lucid Dreaming was dangerous. I went really pissed, and was like ‘How the hell can a dream be dangerous?!’ but they knew they couldn’t make me stop from trying to have one :content: . Lucid Dreaming is a free hobby :happy:
Now they think it’s okay.
I have three friends whom I hang out with the most, and one of them has nearly completely the same interests as me, so it’s natural that she starts to like these kind of things. We two love to piss the other two off with talking about LD!

Normally, I never speak of Lucid Dreaming to anyone outside my circle of friends. But today I did it! In school, we had something called “Girlchat” (Just one hour when we speak about things; Pretty obvious :tongue: ) and you had to interview your friend. And of course, Iget my LD-friend and we both say that it’s time to let the world (Class Lol) know that we LD. And everyone got curious; they asked if that was really possible, and we were like Heck yes girl! So now they know.

That’s pretty awesome that you were able to get people interested. I guess it works out better when you have two people talking about it.

I never really have a lot of the problems other people are having here in the exception of my family. They know about LD’s and get the rare spontaneous one every now and then, but aren’t really interested in working to get more.
All of my friends are very open minded and always pretty interested when I talk about LD’s. Some of them are even trying to get LD’s themselves. It’s pretty cool.

hahah Aelyissía, I loved reading your post :tongue:
it’s cool to see parents aproving, friends interested and telling the world! :happy:

oh man, if I had a friend that was interested I wouldn’t shut my mouth about LD’s :lol: I barely do the way it is!

We, myself included, aren’t doing enough to spread the word. Really. I need it to reflect in my waking hours more. Show some tangible evidence of improvement or enlightenment. Distancing oneself of this world of “unnecessary-convenient-material-goods”. My life has only begun to turn around. At 20, I’m thankful it was so young. God is love, can’t touch either… here : )

Talked about it in a cople of conversation, and got one interested and applying ^^ but until the first round of exams he’s stuck at trying to get a DJ working.
I found out that there IS a best approach to get people interested:
First, don’t throw the topic on people’s faces, as their instinct will be to dodge (thus reject the subject as a whole, despite what you will say). Don’t mention the words “Lucid dreaming”, ever, before convincing them - that sounds so Newage-ish to any non-LD’er, and people easily tend to associate this practice with occultism/hippie stuff/etc.
Instead, after having found a worthy audience, bring forth the subject casually, diagonally, like when talking fantasy: “Eh, i did a thing like that in a dream”. Don’t rush things, interest must spring naturally from them. Usually this will suffice to switch subjects, and then you will say “But the best part is, i knew it was a dream! Man, it really is so awesome when you do.” By then, if you’re in a group of 6 or more people, often 1 or more has already experienced a spontaneous LD or two, and you can start sharing. Tell them your best adventures. Get them interested.
Someone will say they don’t dream that often, if at all. You can tell them REM phase is the dream phase, and we all have 4 a day, we just forget them in the morning if we’re not quick enough to recall.
THEN you can actually start telling them that you’re using techniques to increase the chance to recognize you’re in a dream. I didn’t get this far in conversation, but I would advice mostly LL and meditation, as they’re my fav way of getting lucid. But you can do it on your own from there :tongue: you got them hooked if they followed till here.
Good luck sharing the wonderful world of LD’ing ^^