Yaaay, congrats everyone! Definitely gonna pursue what was left undone here!
Congrats Koharo and thanks Thorn for such a fun and exciting LC. This has been one of my favorites. I listened to the conversation you posted, and my thoughts are in the spoiler tag below.
[spoiler]So, I know that my LC was different from those before. However, when I was doing the scoring, I thought I was doing it like Rhewin had done it before me in LC 36. When I started to see the scores being really large, I realized I did something much different apparently. The main thing I had looked to change was the creativity points, as I didn’t want those to bias the competition. I still wanted people to try to be as creative as possible though, so I thought I would make it a competition with minor points to be earned. I was also concerned about the way I had given out creativity points, so before I announced the winner, I made sure that my awarding of recent creativity points had not biased the competition. I did add the FLD points part of the way into LC 37, because I figured there wouldn’t be that many to begin with. Seeing the amount this competition, I think that the FLD points need to be changed. I think they should still count, but the LC in my opinion is about actual LDs and the tasks to get done within them. In going with that, I also think each week should be focused on specific tasks being done, unlike what was done in this LC.
Even though some of what I just said may make it look like I had a negative impression of this LC, that is not the case. I whole-heartily enjoyed this one. In particular, I liked the idea of everyone giving a desired action, setting, and form before beginning. That is something that I think should continue in some form. I liked the amount of interactivity with the TM and the LC participants; I think it made the LC funner. I also like the idea of the group incubations, but I think they need reformation. In particular, some dreamers want to go with very complicated incubations, but a lot of people in the LC aren’t advanced enough to even dream (pun intended) of doing those incubations. Perhaps there could be a beginner and an advanced group incubation instead.
Going along with what I just said, I think that the LC being open to all people interested in it poses some challenges. Some people are beginners, while others are crazy skilled at LDing. I think it would be neat to give some of the lesser experienced people a way to actually compete with those who are advanced without taking away the advanced people’s credit that they deserve. One solution to this was to have people sign up on either a beginner or advanced track, and each week give a beginner and advanced task that are weighted equally. Its kind of similar to what they have for the monthly tasks on Dreamviews. However, I’m not sure that would work out very well, but hopefully it makes the point of what I’m trying to say.
Also, I apparently still have the spreadsheet, which is extremely detailed, for LC 37 on my computer. If anyone one is interested, I can find a way to share it with everyone. It will show you how I broke down the scoring, and may even be a helpful template for those who choose to host in the future.
I agree with ian1 (if I remember who said it correctly) that the bonus potion task was fun. Some form of task like that would make a great addition to the LC, but I’m not sure what other things could be done with such a complicated task. Perhaps just copying your task and changing what the potions do each LC would be interesting in itself.
As a side note, I’ve got to admit, becoming the Hulk was really fun in this LC. I’ll have to use a mirror next time for the transformation .[/spoiler]
HeadInTheClouds, I hope I didn’t sound like I was somehow chewing you out for LC 37’s format or anything. That’s not my intent at all, especially now that I’ve realized that no matter how it gets scored, an invasion of “proficient” dreamers will skew the scores. I also openly admit that I didn’t get everything right this LC on the first try; I hope that given how the last three LCs changed how things worked, the next one will refine it further and improve upon the things that worked.
I do hope to see more adventures of HulkInTheClouds; as I said in the video, it was a definite change from your sign-up saying you didn’t have a particular form to use. I half-expect a task to be about gamma rays if Koharo passes along hosting duty. I’ll also second what you said about the spreadsheet; while there should be a download link at the top of the LC 39 spreadsheet to let the host make a template out of it, I’ll happily pass it along if that doesn’t work.
Scores are upd- wait, I don’t have to say that anymore!
[color=olive]@HITC Thanks. Your style and creativity has influenced me to change up some of my methods. Pretty BA how you were able to pull ahead by completing the bonus, complete multiple tasks in a single dream on multiple occasions, and pull ahead to the top three with a high task point ratio. Both you and BrandonBoss really gave me a run for my money and kept me on my toes.
@Thorn Thanks especially for making the LC fun and exciting, like HITC said before, and remaining committed pulling the conflicts faced IRL.
The LC was pretty epic. Having a miniature profile, the location and desired form to name a couple, with sign ups to play a vital role in a future task (keeps some guessing), then the group incubations involving other partner/rival LC contestants making it more interactive, and last but not least the potion bonus which was pretty fun. Having to guess the potion’s ability while limited to 20 yes/no questions, retrieving a potion in the dream from a limited supply, and having to complete one task to unlock the next requiring you to continue where you left off to some extent and once again keeps the contestant guessing.
LC 40…
Heh…Of the two LC’s of which I have competed, or from what I’ve seen on the list of previous LCs, I don’t recall there being multiple hosts for a single LC…
…But that decision, if having multiple hosts is possible, I will leave to HITC. With that said, LC 40 is in your hands if you choose to accept. Best of luck to the future contestants.[/color]
[color=olive]…And thats all she wrote…
*Vanishes with echoing whispers in the wind[/color]
Congratulations Koharo!
Well, as it’s your win, I don’t see why not. I only brought that up because I’d considered it myself in the past. In LC 37, the eighth week started with a near-tie between me, Scipio, and Gwee, with every other competitor way behind. I had decided that if I won, I was going to host three tasks and ask Scipio and Gwee if they wanted to each have two. Of course, Scipio won and that opportunity didn’t come, but I don’t see why it would be impossible.
In any case, if you’re leaving the decision to HeadInTheClouds, then we’ll just wait for his post.
@Koharo Congrats to the winner! You are a beast Koharo, and I really like your fighting style. I haven’t updated in a while because I simply had nothing to update. My lucidity took a dip, so dont think I was lazy and didnt post and you pulled ahead there, you kicked a—butt. i am back now though and am going to be doing some major exploring of my dream world, some of the things you have said have inspired me to think of the dreamworld as completely different will clarify in PM.
@ Thorn. Thanks for running the competition it was awesome fun. I normally dont do goals in dream as often as I did, but when I became lucid last night, my first thought was to find a goal. I was immediately sad that the comp was over . I did fight that crazy witch though. This has made me better at doing things, very worth it. I am going to get even better.
@hitc
Holy crap! Good job man! Way to show up man. Keep up LDing.
@everyone
Never stop LDing.
[color=olive]@Siiw Thanks!
@Thorn Alright. If the conditions are right I’ll consider doing so.
@BrandonBoss Thanks man! Heh didn’t doubt you for a second man it happens. Glad to have you back on the scene, can’t wait to see how the new prospective will work for you looking forward to the new reads, and congrats taking care of the witch.
@HITC
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@Thorn
I didn’t think you were being overly negative about LC 37; I just wanted to explain why I changed the scoring.
As far as LC 40 goes, I am open to hosting it. I had been thinking of a similar idea to you Thorn should I have won. As the last three LCs were a big departure from LC 36 and earlier, I thought it would be interesting if you, Scipio Xaos, and I hosted the LC together and reformed the rules so that they can be a bit more stable and standardized going forward. I also wouldn’t mind Koharo joining and creating a couple tasks, as he is the one who actually one this LC.
Koharo, Thorn, and Scipio Xaos, let me know what you guys think about this idea.
I am very busy for the next week, but I can have the next LC ready in about two weeks.
HeadInTheClouds, my concern is that LC hosting privileges go from the first-place person to second to third, etc. if people decline. If Scipio were to be involved in joint hosting, you’d need to convince BrandonBoss and LDbc12 to let it happen. In the same vein, I’m not sure I should be overly involved twice in a row. I’m definitely willing to help out behind the scenes with things like figuring out a scoring system or touching up shaky wording in tasks, but I shouldn’t be inserting task ideas into LC 40.
I didn’t think I’d open such a big can of worms with this. I figured Koharo would make a decision and this topic would fall silent.
Thorn, It’s no problem. My main reasoning behind this idea was because since LC 37, each LC has been being changed significantly. I figured that the three people who made these changes might want to work together to try to bring back a more standardized LC.
Unless Koharo is going to host, this is what I will be doing. I will host LC 40, and if Koharo and BrandonBoss want to each add a task, then I’ll create 5 of the tasks, and they’ll each create one. Thorn, Scipio Xaos, Koharo, and BrandonBoss, you are all welcome to help me redesign the rules so that they become a little more standardized. PM me if you’re interested in doing this. I will probably be ready to start the LC in about two weeks. I don’t think it needs to be said, but if Koharo or BrandonBoss choose to submit tasks, then they won’t be able to participate as contestants in LC 40.
So, if anyone, particularly Koharo, has an issue with this, let me know soon. Otherwise, I will assume that I should go ahead with what I stated above.
I would be willing to pass it down to the next, so that the others could host it however they like. I would like the next competition to be as Boss as possible.
I would rather compete than submit.
[color=olive]The ball is in your court.
I was already going to sit this this LC out to take care of some things on the other side, so I won’t mind submitting a task for LC 40 and discuss/help redesign some rules.[/color]
@BrandonBoss
Alright, I understand. Hopefully LC 40 will be really fun.
OK, so I got a PM from Thorn indicating that he would like to help in editing the rules of the LC. Thus, both Koharo and Thorn are in on working with the rule changes. Like I said to Thorn, I will be busy until next week, probably around Wednesday or Thursday. Sometime after that I will be ready to start working on the LC.
I haven’t heard from Scipio Xaos yet, but I will get in contact with Thorn, Koharo, and Scipio Xaos (if he chooses to be a part), and begin the discussions in a few days.
I hope it is XL. remember that 40 is a milestone. We won’t hit 50 for a whole year at least, so make it special.
Congrats Koharo.
I was curious to see how it would play out between Koharo and BrandonBoss, atleast those are the two that caught my attention.
It’s unfortunate (and fortunate, in a way) that my Dreaming took a strange turn, but we’ll see how next LC goes.
Congrats KOHAROOO, and good job to everyone else!
Congratulations, Koharo! And thank you Thorn for hosting the challenge.
Alright thanks yal
Congratulations, Koharo! :>