thankyou mattias , i completly understand, i tried this last night, and, (bearing in mind ive only had one vague ld before) it was the strangest experience, first try. Nothing happened, second try, after only 30 seconds, i try breathe wilst pinching my nose… and it workes, and i had literally such an amazing sensation as i knew i was breathing through my fingers. This then developed into a really strange ld. i knew i was dreaming, so i got up out of my bed, but everything was fuzzy, my head was dizzy and it felt like my head was filled with helium and trying to float to the cealing, i floated a bit off the ground, then all of a suden fell straight back into my bed and woke up. It was really strange but rather shortlived. Definatly trying it again tonite:) thank you for this technique, it is truely like golddust to me at the moment.