The animals would eat the humans with the most meat on them, the obese ones that are easy to catch. The prime hunting grounds for this type of prey would be in, its the truth, America.
Do you have any idea how ridiculously unhealthy it would be to eat all meat and never any vegetables?!?! Your digestive system would be very dysfunctional, you would be extremely lucky to not develop cancer and serious heart problems, and in modern times, you would be loaded with all kinds of animal hormones and unnecessary antibiotics. This is not even taking into account the health problems that would arise as a result of meat quality.
There were a few species of early hominids, Australopithecus robustus and boisei, that had heavy molars and small incisors, as they would be adapted to a vegetarian diet. A. robustus had strong jaw muscles and large, heavily cusped molars. This hominid may have specialized in chewing seeds, nuts, and other tough plant material
This is CRAZY! I was in another forum a while ago and the veie topic turned into a huge rant about stuff, much like this one!
To whoever it was that said some vegans go and preach about how other people are a bunch of sinners…
As (I think) the only vegan here, I couldn’t help taking this a little personally. Why pick on vegans specifically? I’m sure many veggies go and do the same, and surely there must be some omnivores who go and preach about how veggies and vegans are sinners! Also, highly religious people will go and preach about how people of other religions are sinners. It just seemed to me like you thought of vegans as weirdos on soapboxes who are (can’t think of a word, that pic sums it up).
People will have many different perspectives on the matter! Why bother arguing about it if there are so many different views and beliefs. Arguing will not be of benefit to anyone, listening to what other people have to say however may be of more use. I can kind of understand where omnivores are coming from, it’s just that for me it doesn’t make sense.
I know people who have said that if they stopped to think about it for long enough they would probably become vegetarian. So why don’t they??? I think that people are just too lazy to put in the effort and prefer to hide themselves from the truth. SOME poeple, not all
Oh yes, and to Moogle…
WHAT? that’s crazy! You shouldn’t have to go against your beliefs for the sake of other people!! If they can’t understand you being veggie then that’s their problem. Being vegan I can’t help but stand out. I can accept that to some people it may seem a bit extreme (I used to think so!) but people seem “scared” of it and try to challenge it. I think the only reason that people think you are different is because what you stand for makes more sense, and they don’t like that. I dont think ppl should worry about standing out, its when people try to hide in the background that the problems start…
As a non-ideological-ethical vegetarian (have been my whole life). I wear leather shoes and eat cheese/gelatine/whatnot though. I have to say that Sleepy summed it up pretty well. We are controlled by instincts that tells us to eat as much fat and proteins as possible. I have never felt that instinct about meat, probably because i have not eaten much meat. But i like other high-fat/protein foods and would eat as much as i could if my instincts had complete control.
My point is that we know that we know better. We can think rational thoughts and consider problems from different perspectives, in a way we could not when our instincts were first developed. We can consider the problem of world hunger or water pollution that comes from agriculture. Or the problem of your ass becoming fat from too much junk food and too little exercise…
It is rational to think of meat as a food you only eat sometimes, because that would ‘simulate’ how our ancestors ate when they were hunter/gatherers. they would fiest on meat and fish some days and eat vegetables and roots on other days. They also got natural excercise from the hunting, fishing and gathering that was proportional to how much they ate.
I think im too old to ‘convert’ to eating meat. I don’t think cooking veggie food is a problem, and i rarely leave for less civilized places where it would become a problem. Even restaurants in rural parts of my country has vegetarian dishes these days, though they still give you a weird look sometimes. It does not hurt to know that i am not responsible for doing as much harm to animals either. You often hear ‘normal’ people saying they feel guilty when they see pictures of that.
Atheist: According to your point of view there must have been a point in evolution when an animal mother with no feelings or sense of counsciousness at all gave birth to a modern human like us. Right? Because if it was a slow process you would expect to find different animals on the different stages of counsciousness, between us and say for example the insects. I would have thought that such an advanced feature as counsiousness would take longer to evolve than most other features, but i don’t know a thing about biology so i think i’ll leave it at that.
Evolution did take a long time, and during that process there were varying stages of consciousness before that which we see today. However, this process only seemed to have occurred as part of our own evolution, and not that of any other species. Don’t think of intelligence/emotion as being the ‘highest’ level of evolution which everything aims to achieve - evolution is all about what allows a species to survive, and intelligence comparable to that demonstrated by humans is in no way a requirement for most other species.
Look at rabbits. Why would they evolve to a higher level of intellect? As we can see, their current design certainly isn’t holding them back from reproduction (the objective of life) - so what would have encouraged further development of their mind? In our case, it was probably due to our fragile physique. The most intelligent and logical humans survived long enough against dangerously equipped predators to actually reproduce, and hence the next generation carries on this trait.
When talking about evolution, you have to keep in mind that no ‘being’ consciously guided the process. It sorts itself out using the “if it doesn’t work, it doesn’t exist for very long” ideology.
While I don’t doubt science’s ability to explain a great deal about brain function, I do not believe it is possible to fully understand the conditions of thought or emotion. There is a flaw in the logic of a subjective perspective forming an objective understanding, especially in regards to ethics. Animals are machines, like all configurations of cells known as life; but this ‘conclusion’ is much too simplistic. I see it as more of a convenience, requiring no respect, than an accurate understanding.
I haven’t got the time right now to read through this post right now but I will just say this. I am not vegetarian although I do not eat meat if it is in non-meat form. For example, I recetly went to Pizza Hut. I ate a meat feast pizza but then opted not to eat the chocolate cake as it said it wasn’t suitable for vegetarians. I don’t care who you are, who wants to eat meat in their chocolate cake?!
Interesting topic with a lot of differing views. I chose to become 99% veggie when I was 21, and have stuck with it since.
The way the animals are treated on farms, transported and slaughtered is the main reason. Health is another reason. I still love the taste of meat and find it hard when others around me are eating something that smells great.
There is an English company founded on the ethics of treating the animals humanely, and they do not stuff them with antibiotics. This is the only place where I will buy meat from to eat. It is all produced locally, so there isn’t the issue with transportation either.
Actually, if they’re cooked right, cats can be quite delicious. There’s not a lot of meat on them, but it’s very tender. They’re great cooked in garlic!
i’ve been a vegetarian for about 5 months. i really like it and it makes me feel special, lol. im not a vegan but i dont buy cloths that use animal products.
i would have never thought of giving up meat until i saw a video. it was horrible. it is pretty easy giving up meat for me anyway. i dont know how easy veganism will be though.
I don’t like eating read meat, but I will eat fish/lobster/turkey. My parents are basically carnivores, and since we lack money I have no say on what’s bought. The lunch the school gives me a ham sandwich or hot dog with no servings of vegetables/fruit (they always run out). So I’m forced to skip lunch until I arrive home.
(can’t think of a word, that pic sums it up).
I dont think ppl should worry about standing out, its when people try to hide in the background that the problems start…
