what could having salt rubbed on you mean?

There’s something you have to know though. DCs are never willingly cooperative. If they were, they’d tell you things without being asked.

They can’t tell a direct verbal lie, but they can mislead you. They can tell you a half-truth, for example, and that won’t be a lie. Or if they don’t know the answer, they’ll give the answer AS FAR AS THEY KNOW, and act as if that’s it.

So you have to be super-precise in the language you use, and you have to remember their answers exactly. And then after you wake up you have to study their answers very carefully to see if there’s a trick in them. Because there probably will be one.

They’re very zeroed in on me by now. As soon as they realize I’m lucid, they start swarming me, trying to touch me. So most lucid experniences have become very unpleasant for me.

If you want to know about the energy exchange, read Castaneda’s The Art of Dreaming. But even he didn’t realize that ALL dream characters do this. He thought that only certain ones do.

And he didn’t know where it is that all dreams take place.

He also didn’t know what the people in our dreams really are, except in a superficial way.

It could do with protection, but it depends on how you see salt as a tool in your own life.

Arne, everything that is related to dreams is different from a person to person, because themselves produce dreams, and every person is unique. So don’t be so sure of yourself.

Arne, this implies a belief in an autarkic dream world where certain rules apply. I do not share this belief, and someone having written this in a book won’t convice me. I’ve read too much crap in my life… And just as I said, subconscious is a tricky thing. For your dreams, everything you said can be true, just because you read that book before and believed it.

And, by the way, if you feel comfortable with it, this is totally ok. But pls. don’t start a religious campaign. Probably now I start dreaming of dreamworld-entities trying to suck my power because of you. Thanks for that… :cool: :cool:

I agree with DaConceit and BeatDoctor. I think all of this can really depend on what you believe in.

But, besides getting into what DC’s are and want or where dreams take place, I do agree with arne about the answers from DC’s. For whatever reason, I also find most DC’s tend to be really vague and misleading. I rarely get a direct answer that makes sense. (I’m willing to bet that the DC answers something like “how am I supposed to know?” and walks away :lol:)

Anyway, even in this little experiment and discussion, let’s not forget to focus on the fun and exploration :grin:

One answer to this could be, that you’re talking to your subconscious. It does not know more about rational questions than your conscious knows. Maybe you should ask questions concerning yourself.

Absolutely. :grin:

They react slowly. I think you have to have hundreds and hundreds of dreams in which you intentionally interact with them in the way I’ve discussed before they start coming after you. And that’s going to happen to very few people.

And actually, no, most of what Castaneda said was lies. That’s why I recommend only The Art of Dreaming. A good part of that book is true.

You don’t have to believe me about it. You can prove it to yourself.

I’ve wondered, Arne, are your thoughts based on personal experiene?

I know I’ve done some similar things to you in dreams and had totally different results. My DC’s tend to be very cooperative, and rarely try to attack or even touch me unless that is their part in the dream. Some lie flat out, others tell the truth, and others don’t know what to think. My friends are my friends, my family is my family, strangers tend to do what they do IRL (i.e. ignore me unless I need something). Yes, there are certain villains and others who are a bit touchy, but so there are IRL as well. DC’s to me are images and simulations created by the SC specifically for dreaming. I’ve seen no reason to believe otherwise. And, while I’ve not had hundreds, I think that I have had a decent enough number of LD’s to justify my thoughts, as have you.

A good while back I asked some questions here. I asked, more or less, “What are dreams? Do they take place inside your head, or somewhere else? And if they occur elsewhere, then what part of you is participating in them? What are the things in your dreams – the people, the creatures and the objects? Are they simply manifestations of your own mind, or do they have an existence that’s independent of you?”

Those are good topics for people to tackle in their LDs.