I believe it’s possible R3TRO and FreeCube have been at it forever. Not only that, but I remember hearing they can WILD any time they want. Pretty snazzy.
is this Wild after Wbtb? or from the get go…
Im still not sure if ive heard someone say whether wilding is possible right when you go to bed. could someone clear this up?
Well…technically you can do WILD when you go to bed, however, your really not going to have a good chance of becoming lucid. For the first 4 hours or so, you are not in any REM stages, meaning you don’t dream. So for you to try and carry a WILD through 4 hours of unconciousness…thats a little hard. All in all, you have a much higher success rate when you wake up.
With these 2 guys, I think (not really sure if its true or not) that they used VILD mostly. And if they did use WILD, then most likely they used WBTB as well.
137 lucid dremas in one month. Damn. Maybe I should start VILDing too. WILDing is hard. Don’t get me wrong, the actual Wild is pretty damn easy, but the preliminaries suck. I mean, waking up at three a.m.?! or in the case during which I am writing up this post, 1 a.m.!? Most of the time I either wake up, sit up, yawn, look at the clock, hold my middle finger out in front of me, turn my middle finger around to face me, then die (by that I mean fall deep into sleep immediately); or I wake up, go pee, then go back to bed and completely forget about my plans to WILD.
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Also,
“Limits only exist in your head.”
That may be true, but those limits have been put there at a young age, and have been with you most your life. That means that they aren’t something you can just shake off like…well, something you’d shake off really easily. Like…thinking you just saw a person in the room out of the corner of your eye when it was just a bundle of blankets on a couch. Anyway, it takes tenacious self-suggestion over a long period of time to actually break them. Knowing that you have the ability to break them and the fact that the limits aren’t actually there isn’t enough.
Actually, it’s 1.5 hours if i remember correctly. I have had dreams after 2 hours of sleeping, and i have had the quickest LD after 3-3.5 hours of sleep after going to bed at night.
REM is not needed for dreaming, you can get lucid in nREM-sleep too, I can recall dreams I’ve had, after falling asleep within minutes, and was woke up 4 minutes later (Not HI). I know it was 4 minutes because there was someone else in the room, (The one who woke me up 
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