A better future-maybe

I am not ‘trying to do’ anything. I am simply stating what I was and what I am thinking.

I dont consider this an argument, and I dont consider it futile. So much hostility coming off your posts, wake up in a cranky mood?

You are not welcome.

I believe in a lot of things, for the bigger pictures I see I have not found any labels.

…I’m amazed that you don’t expect the least bit of hostility when you start calling people whiners.

Mind you that I never told anyone that they’re not welcome.
If anyones being hostile here, barging into discussions calling names, it’s you.

And I’m not sure what your concept of a discussion is, but 2 people, sharing different opinions and trying to convince eachother of these, well, that’s a discussion, you might have been confused by the fact that I don’t have a discussion with you but with Jayster.
At least he does’nt call me a whiner or try to get me out of this thread altogether (seriously though, your not intimidated right?).

If you reply to things I say with things you’re thinking about it you might as well expect me replying to yours with what I think, even if you don’t acknowledge this as a discussion, I was’nt the one that started talking to you.

Haha good. No I’m not intimidated, I’m glad you’re enjoying yourself.

I’ve told a lot of people they are not welcome, because in truth I don’t welcome very many.

I’m not trying to get you out of the thread, once more what I said is just what I was thinking. It is obvious you have taken no offense to it if you are enjoying yourself, and you really shouldn’t.

We’re getting a bit off topic, but you see we have had a conversation havn’t we? What you think does seem a bit clearer to me at least.

Actually, I edited out the bit about enjoying myself before you posted, since the feeling is closer to sadism than actual happiness (even though sadism is a way to reach happiness).

You might be able to understand though that I don’t take kindly to people excplicitly telling me I’m not welcomed by them, regardless of their mental state.

Ok, if your up for a discussion, you might want to aquantance yourself with the concept of epistimology, since this is the system that I as overly rational creature use, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology .
This should give you a basic concept, it’s the school of defining what’s real, it’s generally impossible to know anything with absolute certainty because our human minds are not equiped to deal with reality directly, however, if I start believing in things I see no actual proof or necessaity for, well if I make that step I can esentially believe in anything, and might be devoutely religious in a week.
This is a personal choice that you and most of the earths population luckily don’t share with me though, only complicates life.

Our beliefs are close but very different. I expect we will have a few more conversations like this, because my views do tend to clash with others and I do speak my mind openly.

I think you can take it though :content: I’m done.

Well iv briefly looked at this site of yours, epistemology, i gotta say, call me dim, but its looks quite complex. But, when i have a bit more time, i will look at it more closely so that I can better understand where you are coming from. I dont want anyone to think that im ignorant enough to see things only one way.
However, i very much doubt that it will change my current beliefs as I very much doubt that I will change yours.

I shall be back once iv read this link you sent.

I agree. I’m not sure it’s possible - I’m guessing, just like you, but Maybe it’s really possible to do similar stuff, maybe it’s really possible to heal yourself in a LD, maybe you can tell your mind: “make my blood hotter so the bacterium will die” or "make the blood send more white blood balls(The thing that cures people and fight bacterias (I think)).
Also, not really long ago, I thought about talking to my SC when I’ll have a LD, and to summon a spiritual guide and ask him how can I take a better advantage of my brain… But people told me I really shouldn’t mass up with complex stuff like that, so I haven’t :razz:

Hmm, as a practitioner of Aikido and also a student of Shiatsu, which both rely heavily on Ki energy, I feel I should add my 2 cents into this and give a few examples of Ki (Chi, prana) at work.

As one example:

I have asked extremely buff men (football players and weight trainers) to try to bend my arm when I simply held it out straight in front of me. When I used muscle to try and stop them, there was no chance. It bent like a bendy straw.

I then stop using muscle strength and instead channel Ki through my arm. No one has yet been able to bend it even the slightest bit.

As another:

Have you ever stood on one leg and had someone push you? You fall like a dead tree. I, on the other hand, have allowed people to try their hardest to knock me over while channeling Ki through my leg. It can’t be done!

As a third:

I, by channeling Ki, whether you choose to believe this or not, can tell exactly where you are in relation to me with my eyes closed simply by reaching my Ki energy out and finding yours. I have even tried this through walls. I can sense you from about 50 feet away - people who are exceptionally strong in Aikido can sense you from much further than that.

I’ll also mention that every human body has what are called “meridians” running through it. These meridians run through the same place on every body and carry Ki through the body. Along these meridians, and especially at end points, are points called “tsubos.” When Ki is channeled into a tsubo, it can cause either healing or extreme damage to occur, depending on the intent and skill of the practitioner who is channeling it. I have personally walked up behind people, who didn’t even know I was there, and barely touched a tsubo on them, channeling Ki into it, and watched them fall to the ground like a sack of rocks. This sort of approach has been proven to knock people unconscious, and, in some cases, can be fatal.

So, yes, Ki does exist, and even if it can’t be measured, par say, its existence has been proven for thousands of years.

Sorry if this topic’s already been left… admittedly, I didn’t read the entire thread.

I totaly do believe in Ki energy, if you do read this thread you will learn that i have been a practitioner of Tai Chi for years under one of the most acclaimed instructor in this particular style in the UK. I have expeirienced Chi, and have numerous books and videos on the subject of Chi.
My argument is that i beleive that you can use Chi, or in your case the japanese version, Ki, in the LD to heal your physical body.

Yes, I was talking to Inquisitor Bob, not you. :happy:

I know you believe it. But Mr. Bob seems to be a bit closed-minded about anything he can’t see.

Let’s ask this:

Can I see Inquisitor Bob? No. Can I hear Inquisitor Bob? No. I can see he’s writing, but I can’t scientifically prove that he’s actually writing. For all I know, he’s a robot.

From Inquisitor Bob’s point of view, none of us on this forum exist.

OK, I did some research, and I found something you would enjoy: concrete and MEASURED proof of the existence of Ki:

Ki-Energy (Life-Energy) Protects Isolated Rat Liver Mitochondria from Oxidative Injury

The Nishino Breathing Method and Ki-energy (Life-energy): A Challenge to Traditional Scientific Thinking

Growth Inhibition of Cultured Human Liver Carcinoma Cells by Ki-energy (Life-energy): Scientific Evidence for Ki-effects on Cancer Cells

According to this research, Ki has been proven to reduce the growth of cancer cells, improve the human immune system, and protect rat livers from heat. It has been MEASURED, and seems to exist as a form of infrared radiation. It has also been observed to be able to move other people with no physical contact.