A Good Dream Journal?

Hello. I’m new to the concept of lucid dreaming, and new to this board…I thought posting on a lucid dreaming forum would somehow bribe my unconscious into allowing me to have lucid dreams. Very selfish first post.

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Anyway, from what I have read, the first step to gaining lucidity is improving ones dream-recall, and most sources suggest keeping a dream journal to this end. However, I was wondering how to go about keeping such a journal…specifically, how it should be laid out. What should be included? How much detail? I know lots of detail is good, but I feel there’s always a danger that I’ll imagine things that weren’t actually a part of the dream. Some sources say events during the day should be recorded, some say just to focus on the dream…some say there should be separate paragraphs for the different senses, some say there should just be a running narrative…some suggest first-person, some third-person…it’s all very conflicted. I guess I was just looking for some advice from more experienced people.

(Sorry if this topic is a repeat, just point me in the right direction and lock it if need be.)

I have taken most of my advice from the expert of all experts, Stephen LaBerge, and will share the methods I use…

Of course keep your DJ right next to your bed and always write down the date. I write down the date before bed each night (when I awaken it’s one less thing to write that’s not a dream) and even if I have zero recall, I write how much sleep I got, how I felt upon waking, etc., to help me during future sleep.

If all you can remember is a mood, feeling, person, one little thing, write it down.

If you wake up in the night, write down your dream, don’t wait until morning or you will probably have lost it.

I think the “events of the day” idea you refer to is if you don’t remember a dream or all of a dream, the day’s events may cause you to remember a dream. If you are like most people, you should have no trouble distinguishing real memories from dream memories. Personal example: putting a new roll of toilet paper on the holder one morning IRL caused me to have a brief memory of my boyfriend putting a new roll on the holder the day before and I said wait a minute, he never does that IRL, so it must’ve been a dream memory. I checked with him to be sure and I was right (plus there’s no way I go through a roll a day). Funny trigger for a memory and funny dream too, but any memory is a good memory!

You can give your dreams titles to help them stand out in your DJ for later reading and reviewing if you want (can help you pick out common dreamsigns and make it easier to locate a particular dream you may be looking for)…I rarely do this even though Dr. LaBerge suggests it. Personal preference, it’s up to you. I’ve only done this once and the title was “The Should’ve Been Lucid - Giant Praying Mantis - Pot Yard Sale Dream”. Don’t ask. :content:

Sometimes when you awaken if it was a vivid and lengthy dream you may want to jot down a few words about various parts of the dream so you don’t forget them and then you can write the dream out as you remember it in detail, using your notes to refer back to so you don’t leave any parts out. I don’t usually do the note thing but I’m going to start because it helped me the other morning. I had written down about a half-dozen highlights from a dream and by the time I thought I was done writing out the story, I checked the notes again and realized I had forgotten a whole scene that fast, but having the notes brought it back into my mind and I was able to write it down in detail.

You should describe as much of the dream as you can, especially anything very odd (something that could be a lucidity trigger in the future). Describe the actions, the sights, sounds, smells, emotions, everything! You can also draw pictures to add to your dream story; I’ve done this many times.

You should also leave yourself enough time in the morning (or whenever you get out of bed) to record your dreams (wake up earlier than usual). If you’re in a hurry to get someplace, you won’t have time and that sucks. If I have a really long dream, it can take me 20 minutes or so to write it down.

Just remember this, it’s your dream journal and you can set it up however you want (however you experienced the dream is the best way to write it down as far as the story part), but these tips should help get you started and I’m sure there are other dreamers here who can help you.

I thought there was a BIG dream journal topic, but I guess not? I mean besides people’s individual dream journals, I thought there was a topic on setting them up and stuff…?

Hi Stormy! Welcome to LD4all! :wave:

If opinions are such conflicted about the dream journal, it’s because its form is not such important. The best is to follow your intuition.

Moreover some people have a dream journal because they want to interpret their dreams, others have one because they want to find their dreamsigns out, others just want to remember their dreams. So it depends on what you’re expecting from a DJ.

IMO, the simpler the better. You write a title, a date and what you remember of your dream. Later, if you feel the need to add improvements, you have all the time to do this. :smile:

(I moved your topic into the “First Step to Lucidity” section because it may interest beginners).

There is a BIG Remembering dream topic, but no BIG DJ topic, because there are not a lot of questions about how to set them up. There is also the “writing in rainbows” topic for tips on how to layout your journal, but it’s only for LD4all Dream Diaries to be read more easily.

Hi Cynster, hi Basilus! Thanks for replying.

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I think the problem is I’m afraid of doing it “wrong”…stupid, I know, but I’m sort of a perfectionist a.k.a. obsessive-compulsive idiot…

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Thanks for the extensive tips, though! Do you write straight into your journal, or do you make notes on a note-pad first and then copy it up into your journal? Ack, again with the perfectionism!

I want to write my dreams down to improve dream recall and spot dreamsigns…I’m trying to work through LaBerge’s book, “Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming”, and I need to get my dream recall up to at least one per night, mainly by using a journal, although he doesn’t go into enough (“enough” defined by me, of course) detail about journals. I guess I need a “Dream Journals for Idoits” book.

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I’ve just a big notepad. It’s my DJ. When I’ve LD’s or very interesting normal dreams, I copy them into a Word document on my PC.

I use a spiral-bound notebook and usually just write down the dream as I remember it, but like I said, I’m going to start writing notes first for my longer dreams so I don’t forget any parts of them.

I have been keeping a DJ since December 2004 and still can’t remember one dream every night (but my recall has improved vastly compared to not using a DJ) but I also have extenuating circumstances*…I hope to achieve more recall and lucidity in a couple months when my schedule eases up a bit. EWLD is a great book, I’m re-reading it now, hoping it’ll help. When I first read it, I was very new to all things lucid but now that I’ve been a member of this forum for about seven months and have learned a great deal more and experienced more personally, I am able to absorb and understand more of EWLD this time.

I understand the perfectionist thing, but just start writing in your DJ and over time you will find what works best for you. Nobody is judging you but yourself, so whatever method helps you the most in your quest for LDs must be the best method for you! :content:

* https://community.ld4all.com/t/questions-about-methadone-and-dreaming/14113/5

Hi Stormy (love your name!! :wink: )

However you like. There aren’t any rules, but I think it’s better to write how you feel comfortable writing rather than following a set of specific guidelines laid down by another person. Dreams are very personal, after all.

Probably whatever you can remember. Mind you, I’m saying this from the perspective of a reader (short dreams aren’t that interesting - long ones are more fun to read, lol)!

I write straight into my journal. I’ve occasionally written out notes first thing in the morning if I don’t have time to write it up properly, but I find this tends to mess up my recall a LOT, because a few hurried words can’t describe a dream very well and I get confused as to what was going through my head at the time when I come back to it later. Personally, I find it much better to rely on my pure memories and just write down everything in one go the first time. I’ve been doing this for over eight years now and I’ve never had any problems with my recall, but it’s really each to her/his own.

Tell you what - there’s a very good online site for dream journals called www.dreamjournal.net . That’s a good place to get started - they have a symbol guide and lots of little spaces for comments, etc. If you’re unsure of how to begin, I recommend that site as a way to get started. :smile: