This is my first post post, though I have been reading this forum for a while.
Today I had my first ‘proper’ WILD type experience. I was lying in bed, eyes closed, geometric kaleidoscope patterns appeared and I felt myself relaxing more and more. All this has happened to me before. But then I reached a point where I just sort of tipped. The only way I can describe it, is that it felt like being dragged under water very quickly. I could also hear very loud ringing in my eyes and it felt like my ears where going to burst. If I hadn’t have red posts on this forum I would have been terrified by the whole experience.
My question is (finally ! ) I red that every time we got to sleep we go threw this SP but the experience is so extraordinary and amazing how come we just never notice it ?
The answer is very simple, because normally when we fall a sleep and the brain does a neurological relay/transsition from waking to sleeping we are not conscious aware of that. Remember that a great deal of all the impact is how your conscious self experiences the transsition in the brain going from waking to sleeping.
Also what plays a big role is the speed you do wild with!
The speed of the transsition it self!
When you do that very slow/gradually you dont have such strong effects and experiences.
Most ppl are not very experienced with wilding and dont know even that everyone that practise wild goes through a trance, with exception of some dream yoga tech.
If you as a beginner cant control this trance and you are not routined with it, then it can happen that the transsition in the brain from waking to sleeping also goes very fast. And that intensifies all you experience while your doing the wild itself.
So there are several reasons, most common is ppl dont have a clue what they are doing and are unexperienced so some parts of the wild goes to fast for them in relation with there level of control and experience.
Other reason is neurological sensitivity, that differs from person to person.
Those are the main resons.
Dont be afraid, try to take the process of wild more slow more gradually.
You could also learn about self hypnosis and breathing at meditation etc
that also will help a bit.
But do realize that classic wild is practising a trance.
All those effects also sp you get when you practise a trance induction.
Hello, I’m also new to this forum and tried to WILD/Dream Incubation last night (first time I tried woo!)
Now I had the kaleidoscopic eye-thing, but I’d explain the ‘pulled under’ feeling more as loosing the sense of balance, and going down a rollercoaster (it felt wonderfull, whee. Heartrate increased highly though, and that was uncomfortable ). What I want to know is; whats supposed to happen next? I kept imagening the dream-scene, but nothing happened and the loss of senses faded away.
eMB, I think that what is supposed to happen next is that you enter some sort of dream scene. I didn’t add that after the first experience I thought that I woke up and got out of bed, but when I really woke up a bit later on, it turned out that I had only dreamt that I woke up.
Good question ! Where is our consciousness during this experience ? Are we conscious but focusing on something we don’t remember ? Could it be possible we are totally unconscious ? Can consciousness disappear ? I wonder if someone can answer to this…
Hi eMb ! Welcome on the forum !
Hmmm… And sorry… I can’t answer to your questions… I’m not a WILDer…
Good question indeed… Consciousness never disappears, but we can shift through it towards other domains which are separated from each other by differences in context (from unconscious to subconscious and conscious). Those contexts can only be understood by a personal judgement, or interpretation when one’s residing in that domain, or context. Therefore, it’s always difficult to remember something we experienced in another context/domain. This memory barrier can be the result of that huge contextual gap; subconscious experiences are for instance very hard to translate using a conscious context, and then it all gets deformed and distorted. So in this case, if we can’t remember the SP experience, then we’re probably in another domain, my guess would be that we’re unconscious. Only if we were conscious during SP, we could translate the experience accurately because we don’t need to shift towards another context. I think that’s also why LDs are so much better remembered: when we remember it afterwards, we reside in the same conscious context as when we experienced the LD.