Am I somehow immune to SP?

Don’t know if I should post this question is another thread but I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice. Basically I’m trying to master inducing sleep paralysis, because personally I find it easier than everything else I’ve tried to do. But when I say easy, I’ve only managed to induce Sleep Paralysis once this year so far. I don’t know why, but once in the morning I managed to ignore the roll-over signal and quickly go into SP, leaving another body to spin around for some weird reason. And that was great! No problem at all, all went to plan, but then a number of days after I haven’t been able to induce it with the same method. I’ve even tried doing it during Wake Back to Bed but no results. The only times I thought something was happening was when something weird happened to the blood circulation in my arms and they went numb and then had pins and needles.

The only times I’ve managed to do it was with my side, because honestly I’ve laid there for an hour in the past on my back without moving (other than twitching my eye-lids now and then) and not even a roll-over signal.

The thing is, my body is refusing to go to sleep after having a roll-over signal, I’ve had the urge to roll over three times with no results. Is my body trying to tell me it doesn’t want to do it, or something?

The problem with sleep paralysis is that so many people have been misinformed about its definition. Sleep paralysis is actually classified as a sleeping disorder, and it is not necessary in order to WILD. In fact, most people never experience true sleep paralysis at all. SP is constantly mistaken for REM atonia, which is the actual method by which the body prevents you from acting out your dreams. This thread is the best explanation regarding SP and REM atonia. It might answer some of your questions.

Oh right okay, I’ll take a look. I’ve read so many people saying it’s not unhealthy though, where they all wrong? :sad:

Edit: Ahh that’s a shame, none of them mention OBE’s, which is what I was trying to do.

I was trying to follow this guy’s method y’see…

youtube.com/watch?v=Tb8eGsu_ … e=youtu.be

I guess it’s just one of those misconceptions that spread like wildfire through the forums until everyone believed it without question. Though I wouldn’t exactly call it unhealthy unless it interferes with your sleeping schedule.

I’ve not heard very positive things about that guy (and some of what he says seems very scientifically inaccurate), but that method basically seems like WILD with a few extra steps. You can still initiate the same mind awake/body asleep stage without having to go through sleep paralysis, so I don’t think it will impact your ability to OBE.

And here I was thinking they were the same thing! And why what have you heard about him? Lol

I’ve heard that a lot of what he says can be very misleading. That’s not to say that his techniques won’t work, but his explanations behind them are way off from a scientific perspective. A lot of people say that he makes a lot of stuff up to sound as though he knows what he’s talking about, so he can sell the second part of his program.

I’ve never looked at any of his videos aside from the one you just posted, so I can’t really say one way or the other.

Yeah I was reading a thread from Dreamviews last night from 2009, saying how misleading it is and tries to sound scientific. I mean, in my opinion his graphs make a lot of sense, but yeah I guess if it’s not agreed upon by the rest of the community I should do more research… Lol

I agree entirely, many people are after this whole misconception that they need to be able to induce SP to either do WILD or have an OBE, this is not true. Both techniques come from having a relaxed body, and people find that they cannot relax at all when trying to induce SP.

I think if you really want an OBE your best bet is to relax and forget about SP. There’s other ways to do it, like relaxing and meditation induced. One I know is liked around here is the LD inducing OBE style, which can be interesting. It’s basically just becoming lucid and then getting out of your body from there, which seems to work a lot better then SP does!

I can imagine it does, although I don’t find lucid dreaming very easy, a lot of it is based on luck and habits I find, and the same techniques can be used to induce either an LD or an OBE, because they’re both induced mainly as they’re altered states of consciousness.