I’ve been very interested in lucid dreaming ever since I found out about the subject. So this has been roughly two years, give or take a few months.
The only problem is that I have never been able to actually have a lucid dream. I believe there have been one or two times that I’ve come kind of close to it, but with no luck. So here I am two years later, still having not a single lucid dream to speak of.
Did anyone here have a lot of trouble having lucid dreams and was a long time after you found out about LDs before you actually had one?
haha, I like that spirit guys. I won’t give up either.
I have had one lucid dream but it was very short and indeed, I didn’t do interesting things awell. I bought cookies and gave everbody one. How peacefull aye ?
Almost had a LD this afternoon, Got so close in my WILD. I saw a massive landscape, SO cleary, like the images appearing in my eyes. But wow, i got so excited, It felt like lots of blood was rushing to my face and my eyes just shot open. When I closed them, it was gone .
You’ve had many in the past, You probably just forgot the dream you had it in.
Come to think of it, everyone in this topic probably has had a few hundred lucid dreams but just can’t remember them.
However when waking up, I feel that if you don’t remmeber a dream, it never existed.
I agree with altheman, i think I have a lot more lucid dreams than I remeber. Just because it’s an LD it doesn’t mean you’ll remeber it. I’ve had plenty of LDs that I wouldn’t have known about apart from during the day something triggers my memory of it, so I reckon there’s also a lot that I just never recall.
I don’t really agree. I think lucidity implies remembrance; you have to remember your LD longer then just the moment intself. If you don’t remember your dream it is certainly not lucid.
And even if you have had lucid dreams but can’t remember them, there is no point in calling them lucid . Since the whole point of lucid dreaming is to know you are dreaming. If you forget that afterwards, you don’t know you have been lucid, which is the same as not knowing you have been dreaming which is the same as not being lucid.
Not knowing you have been dremaing doesn’t mean the same thing as not being lucid. Lucidity is about being aware that you’re dreaming whilst you’re dreaming, not remebering the dream doesn’t change the context of the dream whatsoever.
It’s actually a quite interesting question: is a LD not remembered still a LD?
I guess it really depends on what floats your philosophical boat; if you take the esse et percipi (SP?), then no. But if you play strictly by definition, then yes.
on-topic: I’ve been trying for nearly a year now and I haven’t succeeded. Sometimes I think trying to hard is what kept me back all that time. But I’m confident that I’ll figure it out eventually.
I’m sure that lucidity implies memory of that lucidity for longer then just the dream itself.
Besides; if it is true that you can be lucid while not remembering that it is so, then there is no evidence whatsoever that anyone has ever been lucid and not remembering it, otherwise they would have remembered it.
Thus the idea of ludicity without memory is vague speculation.
It’s kind of like that philosphical question ‘if a tree falls in the woods did it still make a sound?’ But I’ve never really got why this is supposed to be a difficult question. Of course it made a sound, no one heard it that’s all. Just like an LD that’s not remebered is still and LD. Just one that wasn’t remembered.
I would say that there is evidence for it Drudge, in that we are constantly dreaming and hardly ever remeber our dreams so waht makes LDing different.
OK, maybe they should stand out more in memeory but that’s not to say that they will always be remembered. Like I said before, I have had Lucid dreams that I only remebered at a random point during the day, or even the day after, because a random event triggers the memory of the dream. if that random event had not happened then I would have had a lucid dream but not remembered it.
ok imo if we actually don’t remember any lucid dreams there is no proof we are having them at night …
I didn’t experience any lucidity until my late 20s. So no childhood or young LDs. All my LDs have been easily remembered … I never wake up thinking I think I was lucid and have to hunt for it. (unlike recalling some normal dreams)
If you don’t remmeber doing it, then it never existed. It’s like someone saying they went to the shops but they forgot which shops they went too.
Talking of lucidity, I remmeber using powers and things when I was young, just I didn’t realise i could do more. I musta had around 5 seperate experiences. Now, my recall back then was really bad, i would say about 2 dreams per month. Adding up, if everyone remmeberd all their dreams when they were young, about 1/5 of them would of been lucid ones.
It’s really hard for my head to get around. Imagine to your self now that everything your going to do in the next 40 minuites will be whiped clean after. It will be as though those 40 minuites never existed.
Memory isn’t that great for dreams, it always seems degraded.
I’m not saying that there is proof of having LDs that we don’t remember, I’m just saying that if we were lucid in a dream but we didn’t remeber it then it would still be an LD, an I believe that there is a strong possibility that lucid dreams can occur but not be remeebred.
You can’t say that all your LDs are easily remebered, because if they wern’t remembered then you wouldn’t know about it. I know what you mean about you never thinking you were lucid but had to hunt for it, that doesn’t happen to me either or prabably anyone because if you know that you were lucid then you’ve remebered the dream in the first place anyway.
Another thing is that often you only remeber the dreams you have shortly before you wake up( this is true for me personaly anyway). But if we are thinking about lucid dreaming before we go to sleep then surely our mind is more focused on the task of lucid dreaming during earlier stages of sleep, where dreams are hardly ever remebered. (I don’t mean very early stages, I know all about delta and REM etc…)
I’m not saying that we always have lucid dreams at night that we don’t remeber, not atall. Just that for people without great recall, there is nothing to say that they are having lucid dreams without remebering them.
In my opinion, this is also a greater explanation for why dream journals are so important in having lucid dreams. I know people say they help us become more familiar of dream signs ect… but I don’t buy into that.(I should be aware that all’s not well when there is a green man in my bedroom whether I keep a journal or not)
When I started keeping a journal first (before I joined LD4all) and did not make any real attempts to have lucid dreams, I suddenly started to have a few of lucid dreams, which I believe I occaisonaly had before anyway without remebering, becasue I did not remeber any dreams, and I’m sure the same is true for many people. If we always remember lucid dreams, then why is having a good recall so important?
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. Since the whole point of lucid dreaming is to know you are dreaming. If you forget that afterwards, you don’t know you have been lucid, which is the same as not knowing you have been dreaming which is the same as not being lucid.