AP question...

It’s hard to speak out loud in LD’s too. You generally have a very strange voice. As Mohegan said, you can use telepathy.

Im not usualy violent in my LDs, or AP expirances, but the other night I had a OBE, an for some reason I attact this person. When I “woke up” I felt a little scared, because I have respect for the astral planes. I felt like I shouldnt have done it. Attacking someone in a LD isnt so bad, but it feel diffrent i n tha astral planes. I allways feel like Im being watched when I AP.

Hey, aren’t you the previously known 9D-Issue? :tongue:

Well, in the first place, congrats on the OBE; coincidentally, I’ve been wanting to have one for a while, so I’ve been doing research on it. Hmm, it’s a bit odd that you’d just attack someone. Let’s just hope that you didn’t attack a fellow astral traveler; you might have just scared them out of their minds, ensuring that they will never want to AP ever again! :rofl:

I can’t speak in APs, I just use telepathy.

How long was your longest AP? (For me it was about 10 minutes)

I think this is because he astral plains is more for everyone than for yourself and lucid dreaming is the opposite

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I never understood the Out of body experience, what is it exactly? Im very confuzed on that, sorry but could someone please explain it to me?

thanks

Maybe this will help https://www.astralsociety.com/as/index.php?Page=Articles&Type=Show&AID=6#1.01

an OBE, or astral projection is when your out of the body.
kinda hard to explain… but i’ll try my best :razz:
Basically, your physical body is asleep, while your astral body or dream body is awake.You can move around, and go to places with these bodies.And the whole time you do this, your physical body will be asleep.Some say OBE’s are just LD’s. I think there real and nowhere close to dreaming.

An OBE is like remote viewing?

so does it mean you can leave your body? And can you explore the world around you, as everything really happens? Or is it just like being in a LD?

The two are considered to be related, which is why it surprises me that you know of remote viewing and not of OBE. Usually in an article about one subject, the other is mentioned. I dug up a Wikipedia article on OBE for more information, and if you look in the contents, remote viewing is mentioned! Here’s another article on remote viewing in case anyone is interested.

Hmm, thats cool

If you belive in astral-like thingys, your soul is leaving body. However soul is tied to body by silver cord, so nothing can happen to your body, for example another soul enter your body. Olny death breaks cord between body and sould.

To get OoBE, you need to WILD, but when got buzz in ears, etc, you have to somehow move your astral body (soul) out of phisical body. Soul can move across walls etc, you can even “feel” texture of it. And you can see real people doing things, they actually do. But cord mostly is very short, allows olny to fly in room or house

I am not believing too much in astral thingy. Some of it could be right… but making everything effect of astral looks even funny. Half year ago I saw a page about Biblie and it’s infuence on OoBE ! :grin: :lach2: . Anyways, I heard also that there are possibilies of getting in really deep troubles by OoBE. Astral thunder breaks silver cord, larvas suck life enery out of you. Dunno it’s real or not. I wondered about one thing :If someone died because of that - not care how, just died because of that - there is no way that person could say us about it.

And non-believes in whole astral says that this is a miracle, something not real. OoBE could be a dream - way you are getting it is same way you are getting lucid dream - this is a WILD. It also can be some state of mind.

I couldn’t make it shorter - sorry if it’s too long.

Thats not too long, thanks very much duck, that was really helpful for me. So if OoBE is true, that means you can’t go far right? Since the silver cord is too short. You know if heaven is real, don’t you think you could see it in an OBE? Becuase they say only souls see heaven.

Astral projection IS NOT A DREAM. In a LD you are in a dream, in a world created by your sub concious.
In a OBE you are NOT in your sub concious creation. Your conciousness has left your body. You are in another plane.
Believe it or not I don’t care, it is real.

yes kit, i belive its real aswell! and theres no way you can be harmed in the astral, things can scare you at most. but not harm you

I beleive it to an extent, i mean i beleive that you are really leaving your body and i beleive you really can explore (but i do beleive it can be a LD)

Yes. I do believe you can have a LD that is an AP, or someone having one in their drem basically.

But a real AP is nothing like a LD. I just get frustrated when people say they don’t believe in something, because if you don’t believe why mention it?

Besides, its offensive to people who do AP when people say it isn’t real :wink:

Im not saying i dont beleive it, i do beleive in AP

@yougamer
Cord is extendable, more experience with OoBE’s makes you able to extend silver cord. Experienced OoBErs are able to move really far away.

That’s thing I am not sure about. Like I wrote, If something happened to you during OoBE, you won’t be able to tell us about it.

And I have to mention that I didn’t wrote that I’m sceptic about OoBE thing. But I hate when people says for example that LD is not a dream, but soul moves into another plane, that is kind of astral playground. You cannot pull everything under astral-thing. LD happens ONLY and ONLY in brain, no soul, conciussnes, or anyway you want to call it moves anywhere.

I believe OoBE is able to reach, but I am staying so far away from that as I can. It’s better not to play with things, you cannot fully understand. This is not playing with fire - this is playing with death. I heard that some people after clinical death saw themselves from above - it’s like OoBE, but then cord was propably broken. You are not fully safe during it, because if something happened, you can phisically die. That is horrible possibility.

This is way I look on world - You cannot be sure of anything, as long you don’t just know. So I cannot say “God does not exists”, because I just don’t know it. I can guess so, but I will never be sure. Never, until I die. So it’s better not to anger things you are not sure about. Just because you may be wrong.

EDIT:
Ah, I forgot to mention that I also heard that while OoBEing you can meet creatures that feeds by your fear. Doesn’t seems too friendly? It’d be worse if you had problems with returning to body.

But you cannot just not return to body, until something bad happens. Faster or slower, but you will return, this is not a problem.