Astral projection and Lucid Dreams

[Eldwinn]

@NeoMarine

The big unanswered questions… probably won’t be answered because there is no way to test it.

so how did we come up with astral projection in the first place?

[Kit]

@fritz300

Kinda off topic, but I often see through my eye lids when WILDing right before I enter a LD, though I can clearly reconize a change from when I’m seeing through my eyelids to a dream state… however I’m just wondering, is this due to some kind of spiritual conciousness before a dream? can I take advantage of this to OBE or AP? I haven’t read much on it but I can easily reach this ‘seeing through eye lids’ state and what not.

Regards,
Zak

That is what you call your third eye, or mental eye. Yes it can be used to AP. Do you really think you need your eyes to see?

@Eldwinn

so how did we come up with astral projection in the first place?

We did not come up with astral projection, just as we did not come up with Lucid dreaming. People have been doing it for ages. A long time ago it was common, the reason these things seem odd to most now days is that we have been programmed to believe what is real and what isn’t.

Have you been reading anything I’ve posted in this subject or am I waisting my time?
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[Duck]

We did not come up with astral projection, just as we did not come up with Lucid dreaming. People have been doing it for ages. A long time ago it was common, the reason these things seem odd to most now days is that we have been programmed to believe what is real and what isn’t.

Have you been reading anything I’ve posted in this subject or am I waisting my time?

I don’t think it’s like that. Of course, ages ago during night prays (all religion I guess) people could experience OoBE’s but this was totally like that. Nowadays we are living in environment that is concentrated on phisical things. We are living in world of science, which seems to negate soul existance. There is nothing like souls, exists only core of brain. There is a hole in scientists learnings: None knows how does brain exacly works. But who cares ? It’s easier to go to McDonald and eat Big Mac and fries than try to OoBE. But there is no thing like programming to belive, there is only environment that negates of so.

/me eats cookie